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I think everyone is getting a little touchy with the term "pushed out" and I agree with the point

Author: oldirish (9339 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)
Posted at 11:27 am on Nov 10, 2024
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you made which is *exactly* why I used the term "pushed out".

Take almost any scenario where QBs or 5th years have left... similar to Tyree. The resounding answers have always been something like, "we appreciate your time here, you have your degree, but we're going a different direction."

To your point, this was a bad coaching move IMO in Tyree's case as he could have been easily as productive as Harrison and Mitchell. And, as an injured player at UVA this season, his stats align with theirs. What Tyree offered these guys do not was his leadership, his having been at ND forever and not having to relearn a new place. This would have been a key thing that could have benefited this team and the younger WRs. His ability to show younger guys the ropes and the ND ropes could have been like having an extra coach. A player that has proven to be productive on Saturday's at ND in the past.

I have no idea, but it's hard to imagine that with the WR mass exodus and house cleaning that took place last year, that ND was saying or giving the vibe that they were extremely grateful to have Tyree coming back.

Based on the shambles of that room, it is hard to buy into the staff considering him playing meaningful minutes and being a meaningful contributor in 2024.

Could Tyree have been offered better NIL money? Sure. Could he have known RL was what he is, probably. Could he have wanted to go play back at home? Maybe.

But, putting together the situation in that room, seeing the exodus at that position and seeing coaches (specifically at ND) reach in the portal and fall victim to "the grass is always greener". I'd put my money on he was "pushed out", by the staff not being as excited about Tyree as who they saw in the portal, and they likely didn't portray that in his anticipated role either.

Remember, there are plenty of past cases of this. So, is it conjecture? Yes. Does it align with the scientific method? Abosolutely. Could it be wrong 100%, but I'd lay low odds on it.


Replies to: "I think everyone is getting a little touchy with the term "pushed out" and I agree with the point"

  • In hindsight, pushing Tyree out for Harrison and Mitchell wasn’t a great trade in relative terms. - oldirish - 9:03am 11/10/24 (21) [View All]
    • Tyree never really found his niche at ND - D2 - 2:21pm 11/10/24
      • IMO he was misused..the switch to WR should have occurred much sooner. - Chrisb - 2:37pm 11/10/24
        • agree - D2 - 2:45pm 11/10/24
    • I don't believe Tyree was pushed out for one second...do you have anything supporting that? - Chrisb - 10:25am 11/10/24
      • I think everyone is getting a little touchy with the term "pushed out" and I agree with the point - oldirish - 11:27am 11/10/24
        • I'm sure you feel like those are good points, but it sounds even more made up now - Chrisb - 1:52pm 11/10/24
          • I'd be a lot more careful with those assertions. [NT] - oldirish - 7:53pm 11/10/24
            • I didn't make any assertion...I suggested an alternate possibility - Chrisb - 8:16am 11/11/24
          • Or he wasn’t pushed out at all, but they made no great effort to keep him for the 5th year either. - Frank L - 2:02pm 11/10/24
            • You get it. [NT] - oldirish - 7:44pm 11/10/24
            • Do we know what his Masters is in? ..any chance he wanted something ND doesn't offer? [NT] - Chrisb - 2:16pm 11/10/24
              • Dunno, possible. [NT] - Frank L - 2:33pm 11/10/24
    • Tyree wasn’t pushed out. You are making that up. [NT] - Hensou - 9:49am 11/10/24
      • see above. [NT] - oldirish - 11:27am 11/10/24
    • Re: In hindsight, pushing Tyree out for Harrison and Mitchell wasn’t a great trade in relative terms. - Zander - 9:39am 11/10/24
      • 100% we don't have a QB that benefits the WRs. In fairness Faison had the drops yesterday and has - oldirish - 11:28am 11/10/24
    • Tyree hasn't been healthy for most of this year - ndunabomber - 9:19am 11/10/24
      • I think we are saying the same thing. An injured Tyree on a far less talented team has delivered - oldirish - 11:30am 11/10/24
        • Agreed - ndunabomber - 12:42pm 11/10/24
    • Tyree wasn’t pushed out. He chose to leave after getting his degree. He had a spot if he wanted to - BaronVonZemo - 9:12am 11/10/24
      • Yup [NT] - Fisher01 - 9:21am 11/10/24
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