In addition, here's a hypothetical to prove the absurdity of their argument.

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In addition, here's a hypothetical to prove the absurdity of their argument.

Author: iairishcheeks (25523 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:36 am on Nov 14, 2024

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If Team A beats unranked Team B at the beginning of the season and Team B rises to the top 5 by the end of the season, would anyone really make the argument that "well, Team B wasn't ranked when they played". Pure silliness.

Replies to: "In addition, here's a hypothetical to prove the absurdity of their argument."

UT #3 with no top 25 wins. Best W= Vanderbilt - KWIRISH - 7:41pm 11/13/24 (48) [View All]
- More importantly, how is PSU #4. It's laughable. - LanceManion - 10:44am 11/14/24
  - And scored 6 offensive points in that game. - NDinKentucky - 12:04pm 11/14/24
    - Remember, they scored 34 against mighty Bowling Green (but gave up 27). I don't get it. - LanceManion - 1:52pm 11/14/24
      - They are really the only ranking I have heartburn with.. - Chrisb - 4:06pm 11/14/24
        See, I really dislike them but they have two good running backs like us, very good defensive backs - THEISMANCARR - 5:20pm 11/15/24
- Pig suey! - AlbanyIRISH - 5:19am 11/14/24
- . [NT] - bill rekles - 8:39pm 11/13/24
- That's actually not accurate...they played 4 teams that were ranked when they played ... - Chrisb - 8:29pm 11/13/24
  - Texas currently has 1 power 4 win against a team with a winning record. - AlbanyIRISH - 5:55am 11/14/24
    - UPSET ALERT this weekend! Texas also looks to get beat by A&M and NOT make the playoff! [NT] - KWIRISH - 10:03pm 11/14/24
    - I wouldn't argue against this, just like I wouldn't argue that.. - Chrisb - 8:04am 11/14/24
      - Sagarin has ND SOS at 66 and Texas at 47. - iairishcheeks - 8:11am 11/14/24
  - My comment above came straight from ESPN radio - KWIRISH - 11:00pm 11/13/24
    - ESPN radio should check their own ESPN website [LINK] - Chrisb - 11:07pm 11/13/24
  - Why does that matter? - iairishcheeks - 10:11pm 11/13/24
    - As the season progresses, current rankings mean more - KWIRISH - 11:03pm 11/13/24
      - Rankings are not a quantitative measure of how good a team actually is... - Chrisb - 11:22pm 11/13/24
        Huge difference between that argument - WoodstockIrish - 8:16am 11/14/24
        I'm not mixing apples and oranges.. - Chrisb - 8:41am 11/14/24
        Should GT get more credit for beating FSU than ND or not? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:53am 11/14/24
        It's not about "should" or your poor little feelings on the matter. Factually, GA Tech "did" get [LINK] - Chrisb - 10:15am 11/14/24
        Seems like you're projecting this 'feelings' bullshit. - iairishcheeks - 1:43pm 11/14/24
        Wrong, I have only pointed out facts while you have only leaned on your feelings... - Chrisb - 2:33pm 11/14/24
        Point to where you think my feeling came into play. - iairishcheeks - 2:56pm 11/14/24
        
        How do you reconcile that argument with this one? [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 11:36pm 11/13/24
    - BINGO [NT] - KWIRISH - 11:01pm 11/13/24
    - Completely agree with you - WoodstockIrish - 10:48pm 11/13/24
      - The only thing is momentum and attitude are important if you are playing a team. If they are ranked - THEISMANCARR - 1:04am 11/14/24
        We are taking anout teams that were ranked and now have 3-4 losses - WoodstockIrish - 8:06am 11/14/24
        
        So what happened against NIU? - iairishcheeks - 7:14am 11/14/24
    - What kind of logic is this... - Zander - 10:32pm 11/13/24
      - Simple: as more games are played, the polls become more reflective of reality. - iairishcheeks - 10:42pm 11/13/24
        Re: Simple: as more games are played, the polls become more reflective of reality. - Zander - 10:08am 11/14/24
        
        Agreed [NT] - KWIRISH - 12:09am 11/14/24
        
        Was ND a better team on Oct 18th, 2014 when we were 6-0 and ranked #5, and - Chrisb - 10:56pm 11/13/24
        Exactly our attitude for that game was reflected in our achievement and obviously hit the shitter as - THEISMANCARR - 1:07am 11/14/24
        
        FSU underperformed in that game. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:37pm 11/13/24
        We certainly won the line of scrimmage and were the more physical team that night. - NDinKentucky - 12:12pm 11/14/24
        You could say we overachieved or they underachieved. - iairishcheeks - 6:02pm 11/14/24
        
        That may be the biggest bullshit response ever posted on this board. - Chrisb - 7:33am 11/14/24
        FSU was a lot better than ND in 2014, the records and stats prove it. - iairishcheeks - 7:44am 11/14/24
        
        That is a bullshit answer. If they underperformed it was because we performed well and we did not - THEISMANCARR - 1:15am 11/14/24
        It was fools gold, at no point in 2014 were we the actual 5th best team in the country. - iairishcheeks - 6:53am 11/14/24
        Defense was getting badly exposed by mid season - ndunabomber - 6:26pm 11/14/24
        That was tough to read, I repressed a lot of those memories [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:32pm 11/14/24
        
        Early season rankings are a joke - WoodstockIrish - 8:10am 11/14/24
        We agree, using early season rankings in any argument is a weak argument. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:12am 11/14/24
        In addition, here's a hypothetical to prove the absurdity of their argument. - iairishcheeks - 8:36am 11/14/24