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I don’t agree

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8034 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:10 pm on May 29, 2025
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Obviously, not an easy comparison across two very different eras of college football. A blind look at stats would suggest Riley was indeed ‘better’ (QB Rating, completion %, TD/INT ratio) but Rice actually had fewer pass attempts in more in twice as many games as ND’s QB. He was throwing more often on obvious passing downs under the Holtz scheme and his Yards/Attempt is actually higher than Riley. He also had more passing yards than Riley, with fewer pass attempts.

Splitting hairs, I know. But I push back at the notion that Riley was ‘far superior’.

Rice also won a natty. Coffee is for closers.


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Replies to: "I don’t agree"

  • Rice, Watters & Rocket or Leonard, Love & Price? - koreasam - 6:38pm 5/27/25 (26) [View All]
    • Rocket puts ANY trio over the top. Whether lined up out wide or in the backfield. [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:56pm 5/31/25
    • Waters, Rocket, and a player to be named later. [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 10:02pm 5/29/25
    • McDougal, Becton, Zellars, Dawson, Mayes. NC caliber team. Damn you, Fredo. [NT] - jrdjr84 - 12:46pm 5/28/25
      • zellars /purdue [NT] [LINK] - DonMiller - 2:00pm 5/28/25
    • Ian Book Kyren Williams 2020 [NT] - DonMiller - 10:17am 5/28/25
      • Meier Bettis and Brooks 1992 [NT] - DonMiller - 10:47am 5/28/25
    • Rice, Watters & Rocket LLP? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:54am 5/28/25
    • Just stop - Nigel Tufnel - 8:46pm 5/27/25
      • Baloney, Leonard was a far superior passer than Rice. Remember Rice's passing percentage against - THEISMANCARR - 11:31am 5/29/25
        • I don’t agree - Nigel Tufnel - 1:10pm 5/29/25
          • Your arguments are very logical, I loved both of those guys. I think that Riley has a chance to - THEISMANCARR - 3:32pm 5/29/25
    • Rick Watters (believe it or not) reads this board every so often. He gets a kick out of you Sammy! [NT] - irishslovak - 7:57pm 5/27/25
      • Ricky was a brilliant talent and made many big plays for us and later on as a pro. I remember his - THEISMANCARR - 11:36am 5/29/25
      • Ricky's 97 yd punt return TD vs SMU in 1989 was a beautiful thing. A record that still stands. [NT] - ELP - 8:08am 5/28/25
        • This is my favorite Watters memory [LINK] - Nigel Tufnel - 9:12am 5/28/25
          • I was a high school frosh watching on T.V. - jakers - 12:52pm 5/28/25
            • That was just a remarkable game...the whole weekend was great - Nigel Tufnel - 2:46pm 5/28/25
          • We did not have an offense that really used Rickey's all around talent. - Curly1918 - 10:02am 5/28/25
            • Agree on his time in San Francisco. But he couldn't stay out of Holtz's doghouse. - jakers - 12:55pm 5/28/25
              • True, but the fact that Lou made him play WR really helped his draft stock - ndunabomber - 9:54pm 5/28/25
                • You don't have to convince me. I've always been a huge Watters fan. - jakers - 10:21am 5/29/25
              • With all due to Lou... I wasn't keen on his offensive schemes. I felt these did not open the field. [NT] - Curly1918 - 4:16pm 5/28/25
      • He turned out to be a real standup guy - ndunabomber - 11:33pm 5/27/25
    • Carr, Love, Price [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:56pm 5/27/25
      • Ha! Excellent response [NT] - Frankx - 7:02pm 5/27/25
        • Miller, Layden, Crowley, Stuhldreher. All 4 in the HOF. Went 27-2-1. Title in 1924. - ELP - 7:13pm 5/28/25
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