Notre Dame Football Message Board

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The hypocrisy of the join a conference haters - salbam - 3:04am 12/10/25 (3) [View All]
- ND does not need to join a conference, but 11-1 or better always will be necessary to make the - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:12am 12/10/25
- Their hate will still be there for us if we’re in a conference-they will just have control of us. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:26am 12/10/25
  - 100% why I wouldn't join until absolute re-alignment unless forced. [NT] - LanceManion - 7:37am 12/10/25
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2027 4* DB Ace Alston commits. Marcus is on it. Welcome Ace! Go Irish! - BaronVonZemo - 11:58pm 12/9/25 (2) [View All]
- Remember when we had to convert WRs and "athletes" to DB to field a team? - iairishcheeks - 12:09am 12/10/25
- Sorry KW, missed your post on this below. Good news bears repeating. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:03am 12/10/25
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Brady Quinn is an excellent representative of his university. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 11:49pm 12/9/25 (2) [View All]
- Raise that $$$$$ Brady. [NT] - hipND - 8:10am 12/10/25
- I've been thinking that the ACC/Big 12/Pac 12 and ND split off to make a competitor to the CFP. - LanceManion - 7:42am 12/10/25
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Notre Dame against the world - NDWisconsin - 10:18pm 12/9/25 (4) [View All]
- Unfortunately for ND, it's ND vs ESPN/Disney and they don't do - Clem - 5:16am 12/10/25
- I think the Team will be ready... [NT] [IMAGE] - TyroneIrish - 12:57am 12/10/25
- Let's go kick some Ivy League ass!!! [NT] - clements2 - 10:49pm 12/9/25
  - That is surrendering. Not embracing the hate. But beat that drum if you must. [NT] - NDWisconsin - 10:53pm 12/9/25
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Favorite Minchey landing spots - IdahoIrish - 9:55pm 12/9/25 (9) [View All]
- That list is going to get a lot longer once everyone declares their intention to enter the portal. - Clem - 5:18am 12/10/25
- IU will be in the market for a QB [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 12:29am 12/10/25
- Valhalla. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:06am 12/10/25
  - You ran out of V words? - iairishcheeks - 12:22am 12/10/25
    - Valdosta State. (But that’s the same thing as Valhalla). [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:24am 12/10/25
      - . [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:29am 12/10/25
- Vanderbilt. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:25pm 12/9/25
  - Didn't the NCAA already say that Pavia's time at a JUCO didn't count towards his eligibility? - Clem - 5:23am 12/10/25
- Va Tech?? [NT] - Rocketman84 - 10:12pm 12/9/25
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How many remember who said: "Not even the pope could vote Notre Dame #1"? [NT] - HoustonIrishman - 9:46pm 12/9/25 (2) [View All]
- bob devaney [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 9:49pm 12/9/25
  - Nice call. I salute you, sir. [NT] - murph78 - 8:15am 12/10/25
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Don't look for the Big 12 to roll out the welcome rug for ND. [NT] [LINK] - MAS - 9:08pm 12/9/25 (1) [View All]
- Gee, I wonder who owns the bulk of the Big 12 media rights? [NT] - D2 - 9:24pm 12/9/25
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"Join a Conference" is such a lazy and ignorant take. - clements2 - 7:27pm 12/9/25 (23) [View All]
- Because that's what ESPN/Disney wants and ESPN/Disney doesn't take no for an answer [NT] - Clem - 5:28am 12/10/25
- You are way too dumb to be the real Tommy Clements..... [NT] - irishslovak - 11:49pm 12/9/25
- That worked out well for BYU. And the ACC had to go nuclear on ND b/c of its stupid - LanceManion - 8:04pm 12/9/25
  - Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 8:10pm 12/9/25
    - People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT] - LanceManion - 9:12pm 12/9/25
      - Absolutely. [NT] - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
- There are tons of uninformed lazy talking points coming from media talking heads. - ELP - 7:55pm 12/9/25
  - Because there is no way to refute it.. - irishboyd - 9:11pm 12/9/25
- You're begging the question. - MAS - 7:49pm 12/9/25
  - Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 9:02pm 12/9/25
    - So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 9:05pm 12/9/25
      - I think there is a precedent of the athletic department making some foolish decisions. [NT] - MAS - 9:07pm 12/9/25
      - That’s such an easy out - WoodstockIrish - 9:06pm 12/9/25
        If it's not obvious that being independent is beneficial to ND - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
        Ok, thanks. So you don’t know. Got it. It’s so obvious you can’t tell me [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:22am 12/10/25
  - I assume ND stays independent for their benefit - clements2 - 7:55pm 12/9/25
    - I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 8:26pm 12/9/25
      - ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT] - clements2 - 8:31pm 12/9/25
        In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 9:00pm 12/9/25
        Big East is decent, but starting to show cracks. - clements2 - 9:02pm 12/9/25
        I know, but year-in-and-year-out, Creighton is excellent Marquette's problem is that Smart is - MAS - 9:06pm 12/9/25
    - So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND. - NedoftheHill - 8:07pm 12/9/25
      - Yes. - clements2 - 8:13pm 12/9/25
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Yes..forget Miami-It was all about ESPN/SEC protecting Bama* [NT] - Girard - 5:24pm 12/9/25 (0) [View All]
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Just heard. Dan Dakich on You Tube - Girard - 5:22pm 12/9/25 (4) [View All]
- He’s incensing and pandering. Attention getter old as dirt. - hipND - 8:06pm 12/9/25
- The louder he talks, the more ignorant he sounds. Goes back to his HS days. - ELP - 6:58pm 12/9/25
  - Why not have an in-season tournament using a "curated" set of teams? [NT] - humbaba - 7:40pm 12/9/25
  - Wilbon is right. Need DEI involved. Grambling against Texas Tech* [NT] - Girard - 7:20pm 12/9/25
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2 things I won't forget. - lacan - 3:41pm 12/9/25 (8) [View All]
- 9/11 and the final episode of Lost? [NT] - LanceManion - 6:23pm 12/9/25
- I feel for the ND players. They got screwed over because of politics and won't have a chance to - jray - 4:13pm 12/9/25
  - agreed with All [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 10:07pm 12/9/25
  - It's a deeply flawed process without a doubt - McIrish - 4:22pm 12/9/25
    - And this is where the only real solution... - irishboyd - 5:43pm 12/9/25
- If I understand it correctly, the ACC likely had no intention of changing their tie-breaking rule. - NDblues - 3:46pm 12/9/25
- Life isn't fair, unless we accept this reality we are haunted by resentment of life not being fair. - iairishcheeks - 3:46pm 12/9/25
  - Based on the first 5 games next year... - irishboyd - 5:45pm 12/9/25
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I guess I heard a different press conference. I thought Bevacqua did great - MarkHarman - 3:38pm 12/9/25 (7) [View All]
- I think he said what he should but fans needed a rally cry - NDNEIL - 5:05pm 12/9/25
  - The only thing fans need is to get over it....but never forget. - nddad98 - 1:00am 12/10/25
- Mark, I'm just surprised there hasn't been more criticism about Bama. I can live with Miami but the - jray - 4:24pm 12/9/25
  - Agreed, the SEC/BAMA is the problem here, ACC/Miami is the red herring. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:59pm 12/9/25
- I think he did OK. Query whether it was necessary. The average bear doesn’t deal in subtlety. - LanceManion - 4:02pm 12/9/25
- I don't know what a scorched-earth approach would've meant for the MOU, confirmed by Bevacqua, that - lacan - 3:49pm 12/9/25
  - the current ccp committee would fabricate a scenario that puts n.d. at 13. bet on it. worthless mou - und67 - 8:29pm 12/9/25
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Jim Phillips of ACC doubles down on how things were handled. Thank you sir, may we have another. - ELP - 2:55pm 12/9/25 (11) [View All]
- Maybe, he knows something we don't know and it was a parting shot? [NT] - michiganirish - 3:45pm 12/9/25
- The end trying to justify the means - McIrish - 3:25pm 12/9/25
- ACC looked like fools. - Hensou - 3:16pm 12/9/25
  - Agree. [NT] - jray - 4:48pm 12/9/25
  - Of course. But they wouldn't have had ESPN's collaborative collusion. - jakers - 3:42pm 12/9/25
- Part of the purpose of the presser was to de-escalate this. “We’ll deal with it later.” - LanceManion - 3:09pm 12/9/25
  - I didn’t take it that way - NDNEIL - 5:09pm 12/9/25
    - He said rejecting the Pop Tart is a one-timer, that the ACC relationship can be mended - LanceManion - 6:27pm 12/9/25
  - The price may be fewer football games with ACC teams [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 3:31pm 12/9/25
    - It is a fair point to ask whether Notre Dame actually can extract the price [NT] - LanceManion - 3:59pm 12/9/25
    - Let the ACC pay that price. It’s one they won’t like. [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 3:33pm 12/9/25
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TTTK, the end of college sports as we know it may be here. Utah and the private equity deal [NT] [LINK] - irish93 - 1:47pm 12/9/25 (1) [View All]
- Have felt it coming. Seems like momentum is growing exponentially…. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:47pm 12/9/25
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Well, that was deflating. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:44pm 12/9/25 (33) [View All]
- MOU's?...did he really say ND is pushing for non-binding promises? WTF? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:24pm 12/9/25
  - You seem to be oblivious to the context… - admiraltact - 6:32pm 12/9/25
    - That'll work well, "after 10 years of haggling in the courts, ESPN formally apologizes to ND - Clem - 5:36am 12/10/25
- Not how I viewed it - Nigel Tufnel - 4:16pm 12/9/25
  - He said far more than Swarbrick would have - D2 - 4:50pm 12/9/25
- Probably shouldn’t have done the presser - NDNEIL - 2:46pm 12/9/25
- What do you think ND should do? [NT] - D2 - 1:35pm 12/9/25
  - Mourn, get over it and adjust to the latest new reality and prepare for dynamic changes to come. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 1:41pm 12/9/25
    - Agreed [NT] - Fisher01 - 1:53pm 12/9/25
- ND has one of the finest ADs in the country. - Hensou - 1:27pm 12/9/25
  - I agree with you...very impressive...anxious to see what actions ND takes. Doesn't appear that PB is - TyroneIrish - 2:55pm 12/9/25
  - ^^^This^^^ - McIrish - 1:39pm 12/9/25
    - Jack the Brick was not a war-time consiglieri. - Bigger Slick - 2:24pm 12/9/25
      - Is he standing godfather for any relatives’ newborns shortly? - TakethetrainKnute - 2:59pm 12/9/25
        Peter Paul Bevacqua: do you renounce Satan? [NT] - Bigger Slick - 3:25pm 12/9/25
- How come no one asked how he felt about Alabama passing ND in the rankings of the CFC after . - THEISMANCARR - 1:03pm 12/9/25
  - That's not a winnable argument because it is opinion - D2 - 1:58pm 12/9/25
  - Pretty sure he has already addressed all of that. - McIrish - 1:20pm 12/9/25
  - (It was -3 yards on the ground.) [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:04pm 12/9/25
- ND will stay above the fray. - NDblues - 1:02pm 12/9/25
  - ...and home. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:06pm 12/9/25
    - Fray can still leak in through the many cracks. [NT] - whatsamataU - 1:31pm 12/9/25
- Consistent. Powers that be factored in that reaction...when they decided to deliberately shaft ND - TakethetrainKnute - 12:49pm 12/9/25
- So much for “permanent damage..” [NT] - hipND - 12:48pm 12/9/25
  - It's permanent to the point that it will never be forgotten - McIrish - 2:22pm 12/9/25
  - Could it be that Pete got orders from Dowd to cool it & settle down. It's only football after all. [NT] - ELP - 1:56pm 12/9/25
    - He has voiced his displeasure and disdain for the process in a measured response - McIrish - 2:38pm 12/9/25
      - And the measured response will make the ACC shiver in their boots for the next time. - ELP - 2:59pm 12/9/25
        Did I say it was your word? - McIrish - 3:17pm 12/9/25
        Here's hoping that maybe something is going on behind the scenes w/o going "ballistic". - ELP - 3:26pm 12/9/25
        Agreed [NT] - McIrish - 3:29pm 12/9/25
    - Good chance, but ND Football is bigger than “only football.” [NT] - hipND - 2:23pm 12/9/25
      - You & I know that but does the man in the golden office know that? [NT] - ELP - 2:29pm 12/9/25
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Well Pete was classy but wouldn't you have preferred he call out the SEC, Alabama, and ESPN as there - THEISMANCARR - 12:42pm 12/9/25 (15) [View All]
- I would like the ref. situation be addressed [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 3:11pm 12/9/25
- That was never the point(s) he was going to make - D2 - 1:48pm 12/9/25
- Penn State over estimated their importance in the world of college football. Don't make threats - michiganirish - 1:08pm 12/9/25
- I appreciated him talking about how good this team is/was this year. I believe they would have made - michiganirish - 1:04pm 12/9/25
  - Even the haters believe/know that. - hipND - 1:06pm 12/9/25
- I'm sure that would have made a lot of us feel better - McIrish - 12:49pm 12/9/25
  - You gave me a mature response that is probably correct in the long run, but I am having a meltdown - THEISMANCARR - 1:07pm 12/9/25
  - Re: I'm sure that would have made a lot of us feel better - IrishTiger - 12:52pm 12/9/25
  - Agreed. [NT] - Bigger Slick - 12:50pm 12/9/25
- I have a feeling that whole thing wasn’t directly for our benefit [NT] - LanceManion - 12:48pm 12/9/25
- He kissed some SEC ass. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:44pm 12/9/25
  - You are irrational and enraged. Posting like a troll. [NT] - Hensou - 1:32pm 12/9/25
    - He apparently thinks he’s smarter than PB - WoodstockIrish - 7:34pm 12/9/25
  - Putting the ACC on notice - F you others will take us [NT] - LanceManion - 12:54pm 12/9/25
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Sounds like Pete wants to take the football team out for an ice cream. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:34pm 12/9/25 (1) [View All]
- He said all this yesterday. [NT] - LanceManion - 12:35pm 12/9/25
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* [NT] - NDblues - 12:23pm 12/9/25 (0) [View All]
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Pete presser at noon. Wonder what he's talking abot? [NT] [LINK] - LanceManion - 11:59am 12/9/25 (15) [View All]
- That Went Well - IrishTiger - 12:51pm 12/9/25
- Looks like ND has difficulty managing expectations as well. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:41pm 12/9/25
  - They expected a fair shot. That didn't happen. [NT] - Hensou - 12:53pm 12/9/25
    - The system moved from skewed against them...to rigged... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:03pm 12/9/25
      - And MOUs aside.. - hipND - 1:16pm 12/9/25
        They probably strengthened their CFP position moving forward. - Hensou - 1:49pm 12/9/25
- It was a measured and skilled response. Firm but fair. Very glad he is our AD. [NT] - Hensou - 12:27pm 12/9/25
  - Screw fairness [NT] - NDinCbusOSUsucks - 12:31pm 12/9/25
    - That benefits no one. [NT] - Hensou - 12:50pm 12/9/25
- He’s being too nice. Not impressed. Need to go scorched earth to get some change. I stopped listenin [NT] - NDinCbusOSUsucks - 12:24pm 12/9/25
  - Everyone took note when ND danced for the NCAA. Bringing knives to a gunfight... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:36pm 12/9/25
- The ND press corp sucks. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:15pm 12/9/25
  - File under: mistake. [NT] - LanceManion - 12:28pm 12/9/25
    - Still not one question on ESPN's influence. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:30pm 12/9/25
      - They don’t ask hard questions. They are locals. [NT] - LanceManion - 12:34pm 12/9/25
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SEC, CCG Loser, and breaking the system [LINK] - IrishTiger - 11:43am 12/9/25 (6) [View All]
- "Any" game with NO consequences is equally as meaningless as a game with no reward. [NT] - Chrisb - 12:13pm 12/9/25
  - Right, why would anyone risk their starters in a meaningless game? - iairishcheeks - 12:50pm 12/9/25
  - Yes, success is in the battle not the result. Given a chance is the success, we were screwed out of - THEISMANCARR - 12:46pm 12/9/25
- Bullshit. It would make them reconsider having a champinship game...which is only there to make $ - Chris94 - 12:00pm 12/9/25
  - ^^^”this”^^^ - if your conference is to tough join another weaker conference and be alpha dog there. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:06pm 12/9/25
- Well, that explains it. [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:46am 12/9/25
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Anyone else want to beat Paul Finebaum’s axx? [NT] - OCIrish - 11:27am 12/9/25 (17) [View All]
- Finally… thank you. Biggest D Bag, corporate swallower on the planet. [NT] - Frankx - 3:03pm 12/9/25
- Paul is an agitator on ESPN's payroll. ESPN is miffed at ND, so what do you think Paul will say? [NT] - humbaba - 2:55pm 12/9/25
- Paul doesn't care. He's glad you're watching & reacting. Mission accomplished. [NT] - ELP - 1:59pm 12/9/25
- I just want to twist that asshole's ears. Alabama was the problem and no way they do well. By the - THEISMANCARR - 12:49pm 12/9/25
- He lives in Alabama's taint. Haven't paid attention. Know exactly what the dick with ears will say [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:21pm 12/9/25
  - One could argue “ears with dick” in his case. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:01am 12/10/25
  - Bwahahaha… yep [NT] - Frankx - 3:04pm 12/9/25
- Yes, a lot! [NT] - Chrisb - 12:18pm 12/9/25
- Feinbaum - nd-usmc - 12:13pm 12/9/25
- I'm sure he's thrilled that 5 mediocre SEC teams got in. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:29am 12/9/25
  - In fairness, there is nothing mediocre about Georgia, Ole Miss, and TAMU. - Hensou - 11:41am 12/9/25
    - Ole Miss will get pounded. Georgia and TAMU are inconsistent. - Chris94 - 12:44pm 12/9/25
      - TAMU lost one game. Georgia lost one game. That's pretty consistent. Worry about Tulane. [NT] - Hensou - 2:31pm 12/9/25
    - Ole Miss blows. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:16pm 12/9/25
      - Ole Miss lost one game. To Georgia. [NT] - Hensou - 2:36pm 12/9/25
    - What's the point of the conference schedule if the championship game doesn't count - DiscoRick - 11:50am 12/9/25
      - Tailgaters. [NT] - hipND - 1:20pm 12/9/25
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ND picked up an elite 4 STAR DB out of Ohio 40+ offers [NT] - KWIRISH - 11:12am 12/9/25 (3) [View All]
- Welcome Ace. Glad to have you. [NT] - Hensou - 8:57pm 12/9/25
- Nice get Ace Alston - Cincinnati (Ohio) Anderson - AlbanyIRISH - 11:17am 12/9/25
- I believe he had an OSU offer. Big get out of Ohio. [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:15am 12/9/25
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I asked AI where ND would have been ranked using the old BCS system: - NDQuebec - 11:06am 12/9/25 (3) [View All]
- That's the crux of the issue. Alabama was behind ND and then was placed ahead of them with zero... - TakethetrainKnute - 11:12am 12/9/25
  - Agree. The Miami narrative was a red herring. - Hensou - 11:43am 12/9/25
  - The biggest problem is the SEC getting 5 spots. 12 team playoff is fine if one conference - DiscoRick - 11:13am 12/9/25
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nd should start its own conference - und67 - 11:05am 12/9/25 (1) [View All]
- Add Michigan and USC and Clemson [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:08am 12/9/25
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I was imaging the signs and the reception ESPN Gameday would receive if they were dumb enough to go - michiganirish - 10:11am 12/9/25 (7) [View All]
- They will be unable to resist ND Miami. Bring chocolate kisses to throw to Pete. [NT] - LanceManion - 10:51am 12/9/25
  - Check out Miami's 2026 schedule. [LINK] - AlbanyIRISH - 10:57am 12/9/25
- I so hope they do. And they get booed dawn to dusk. [NT] - DiscoRick - 10:25am 12/9/25
- They won't go back... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:16am 12/9/25
  - At this point, I doubt the University would permit them. [NT] - Bigger Slick - 10:31am 12/9/25
    - Let them back. Take the publicity - NDNEIL - 11:02am 12/9/25
      - Set them in front of a screen running replays SMU and Louisville highlights. Bama v. Georgia too. [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:06am 12/9/25
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The Big East, here we (should) come - Chris94 - 9:34am 12/9/25 (26) [View All]
- Why not Big 10? Seems they'd be able to help football too. With an ACC like agreement [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:02am 12/9/25
  - Because they are fucking satan - Chris94 - 11:30am 12/9/25
    - Ok, but if the revenue is similar why not football? [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:51am 12/9/25
      - Boring rivalries, full scope of games to limit recruiting reach - Fisher01 - 1:36pm 12/9/25
- I like this idea. Maybe enter in to an agreement with the Big10, 12, and SEC to play two teams from - irish93 - 10:53am 12/9/25
  - Pie in the sky. Those conferences have no desire to make that agreement... - TakethetrainKnute - 11:04am 12/9/25
    - Let's join a group of 6 conference. Get that bid every year. [NT] - irish93 - 11:22am 12/9/25
  - Ya, they just collectively stabbed ND in the back. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:00am 12/9/25
    - Big12 probably not happy with BYU dropping for losing and Bama not [NT] - irish93 - 11:30am 12/9/25
    - You think we could learn from recent history... (2 days ago.) [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 11:23am 12/9/25
- The Big East is the most logical conference to join. - conorlarkin - 10:10am 12/9/25
  - Agreed. And NBC will be there. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:32am 12/9/25
  - Not agreeing with the piece linked here...but here's a window into what a USC thinks... [LINK] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:32am 12/9/25
    - Spot on…we are truly between a rock and a hard place - WoodstockIrish - 7:22pm 12/9/25
- Football scheduling is a real problem...and it's gonna get worse now I believe. - TakethetrainKnute - 9:44am 12/9/25
  - I doubt that. ND brings lots of cash. - Chris94 - 10:32am 12/9/25
    - Have you seen the 2026 schedule. - AlbanyIRISH - 10:52am 12/9/25
      - Compare it to any Big 10 team - Chris94 - 11:31am 12/9/25
    - I like the Big East and agree with maintaining independence in football...but I don't see it as... - TakethetrainKnute - 10:36am 12/9/25
      - if teams refuse to schedule ND that would be collusion, no? [NT] - irish93 - 11:04am 12/9/25
      - Ron Powlus is our only hope - AlbanyIRISH - 11:02am 12/9/25
        Crap job this year if he was in charge of the Miami and Texas A&M dates. [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:03am 12/9/25
        The problem is most conference teams don't want to schedule us once they start conference play - McIrish - 12:10pm 12/9/25
  - This is the looming mid- to long-term problem. We're playing chicken to some extent. - LanceManion - 9:56am 12/9/25
  - 🖕them [NT] - jimbasil - 9:54am 12/9/25
- Football.....on the basketball court. [NT] - hipND - 9:42am 12/9/25
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Join the B10! I love playing UM, PSU, USC! OSU regularly rather than the cons & the Goober teams! [NT] - irishslovak - 9:20am 12/9/25 (12) [View All]
- To all that downvoted or disagree, why not? Tradition, being snubbed a long time ago? - NDQuebec - 10:59am 12/9/25
  - ND joining could force a better revenue sharing dispersion as is already being lobbied for by OSU. [NT] - DiscoRick - 11:20am 12/9/25
  - Having the ND brand marginalized. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:03am 12/9/25
- A national brand/presence is no longer needed for recruiting. - NDblues - 10:06am 12/9/25
  - True. But it would be nice to play real rivals! Less travel headaches for minor sports, [NT] - irishslovak - 10:30am 12/9/25
    - Part of the leveraging against ND. Only chance to play those teams consistently now is...join. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:43am 12/9/25
      - Yep [NT] - irishslovak - 10:50am 12/9/25
- Oh brother...no. [NT] - hipND - 9:33am 12/9/25
- I would rather ND give up football [NT] - Fisher01 - 9:22am 12/9/25
  - Are you nuts? Big 10 is the most logical choice. Less travel except for USC of course. Whether you - THEISMANCARR - 11:01am 12/9/25
    - "Except for USC"? Washington, Oregon, UCLA... - TakethetrainKnute - 12:45pm 12/9/25
  - Ask any former player! They will tell you how they loved playing those teams... [NT] - irishslovak - 9:26am 12/9/25
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I think Pete Sampson nailed one post-mortem fact regarding Freeman and his staff. - AlbanyIRISH - 8:42am 12/9/25 (9) [View All]
- The 30 passes were too mostly made up of little flare passes. They were selling out for the run. - THEISMANCARR - 11:05am 12/9/25
- Completely disingenuous list. [NT] - Chrisb - 9:22am 12/9/25
- Miami's front was dominating us - Fisher01 - 9:20am 12/9/25
- IMHO, this is all on MF as much as I love this guy. He saw what was happening in real time. - ELP - 9:09am 12/9/25
  - I have no problem with the decision to throw the ball - McIrish - 9:43am 12/9/25
  - "Eye Test" and "Style Points" became critical after 2 losses. Poor system (as we see) but demands - TakethetrainKnute - 9:17am 12/9/25
- Valid criticism...and raised here more than a few times pre-mortem... - TakethetrainKnute - 9:01am 12/9/25
  - Last year new OC, this year new DC and Freshman QB. - PaND - 9:17am 12/9/25
- That's a fair point and my 1 gripe with the Freeman era. Early season hiccups have plagued him. - LanceManion - 8:45am 12/9/25
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It is easier if you realize ND was never getting in the playoff this time - OklahomaIrishman - 8:20am 12/9/25 (10) [View All]
- The fix was in for Alabama. ESPN and SEC were out to screw us. How can McIlroy say Alabama - THEISMANCARR - 11:13am 12/9/25
- I'd like a bowl game for 1 reason: to hang 100 on whomever we play. Flock you, committee. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:51am 12/9/25
- The carrot they were dangling was for eyeballs. - NDblues - 8:42am 12/9/25
  - They can't go away. Stop doing it "officially" and one of the "unofficial" rankings will assume the - TakethetrainKnute - 9:04am 12/9/25
- It's not. We'll never know what might have been. They stole it. [NT] - hipND - 8:37am 12/9/25
  - By "it" I hope you are referring to a whole year of these young men's lives. [NT] - Chrisb - 9:16am 12/9/25
    - ^^^^^. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:49am 12/9/25
    - I am indeed Chris. [NT] - hipND - 9:43am 12/9/25
      - Ok, cause I had to explain to my wife ALL that those 2 little fraudulent position drops entailed... - Chrisb - 9:54am 12/9/25
  - Team could have won it all and the committee knows it [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 8:55am 12/9/25
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The Bevaqua interview w Dan Patrick. - NDblues - 6:04am 12/9/25 (9) [View All]
- Yep. I'm not sure how that comment doesn't trigger an internal investigation or litigation. - LanceManion - 8:43am 12/9/25
  - It would be nice like you said for the discovery to all be made public [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 9:01am 12/9/25
    - There would very likely be a protective order entered to prevent that, but... - Bigger Slick - 9:02am 12/9/25
- No shit Sherlock [NT] - ndphysics - 8:31am 12/9/25
- He did say that. - AlbanyIRISH - 7:48am 12/9/25
  - Imagine if there was a lit hold on all Committee comms (texts) related to the selection. Pants - LanceManion - 8:51am 12/9/25
- Your answer: Yes [NT] [LINK] - irishboyd - 6:35am 12/9/25
  - And now all the TV talking heads are giving us the babe in the woods routine. [NT] - ELP - 9:12am 12/9/25
    - I sold every share of DIS yesterday. Feels good. - hipND - 9:47am 12/9/25
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PSA - If you are considering going to the UW game at Lambeau Labor Day—Make your hotel reservations - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 1:20am 12/9/25 (2) [View All]
- We have already made our arrangements - Nigel Tufnel - 8:31am 12/9/25
- I was going to attend that game. - AlbanyIRISH - 6:52am 12/9/25
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Any chance some draft guys stay to finish what they started because of this [NT] - murph92675 - 11:18pm 12/8/25 (5) [View All]
- To get screwed again next year…? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:29am 12/9/25
- I doubt it. - AlbanyIRISH - 7:55am 12/9/25
- Maybe late round guys but early round guys aren’t staying [NT] - LanceManion - 6:04am 12/9/25
- This year’s experience would seem to make one’s decision to enter draft even more likely. - conorlarkin - 3:24am 12/9/25
- Doubt it. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:22am 12/9/25
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Only Rumors at this point, but - irishone - 10:38pm 12/8/25 (7) [View All]
- The ACC is no fit. - AlbanyIRISH - 8:09am 12/9/25
  - WF, UNC, Duke, UVa, (now)Stan, Cal - irishone - 8:55am 12/9/25
- You never know, but the ACC didn’t like Pete calling out their BS - LanceManion - 6:03am 12/9/25
  - It obviously wouldn't be effective immediately. - AlbanyIRISH - 8:10am 12/9/25
- Wouldn’t the Irish need a conference landing spot for all other sports? [NT] - conorlarkin - 3:28am 12/9/25
  - Yes. Maybe a similar deal with another conf? [NT] - irishone - 8:51am 12/9/25
- The ACC has been a horrible football fit for us -by that, I mean that ND plays football and - BaronVonZemo - 11:49pm 12/8/25
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ACC other role - Jburkley - 10:15pm 12/8/25 (0) [View All]
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Hey Fred... - AlbanyIRISH - 8:37pm 12/8/25 (4) [View All]
- Re: my entrance into the world was something - Leahy - 9:08pm 12/8/25
  - The book didn't get into any details. - AlbanyIRISH - 8:13am 12/9/25
    - Re: delivery was a joint effort - Leahy - 8:49am 12/9/25
  - Just like last weekend.. [NT] - hipND - 6:33am 12/9/25
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Love to NYC [NT] [LINK] - irishone - 7:06pm 12/8/25 (22) [View All]
- Do we know if J. Love has already earned his Bachelor's? [NT] - Chrisb - 9:56am 12/9/25
- Amen J LOVE gets my vote [NT] - KWIRISH - 10:45pm 12/8/25
- No surprise to us...couldn't be happier for JL. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 8:44pm 12/8/25
- Well deserved [NT] - LanceManion - 7:43pm 12/8/25
- The last ray of light in this dark ending to the season. - AlbanyIRISH - 7:17pm 12/8/25
  - ESPN’s groveling via Saban and Herbie - they know they fucked things up [NT] - LanceManion - 7:41pm 12/8/25
    - Love winning does not cost the SEC/ESPN money [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 10:41pm 12/8/25
      - Lock for B1G this year...and used for recruiting (NIL$) purposes. - TakethetrainKnute - 9:11am 12/9/25
      - They also know that Love won’t win - BaronVonZemo - 11:52pm 12/8/25
    - None of the on air talent is taking stock on what they & ESPN have been saying the last few weeks. - ELP - 8:03pm 12/8/25
      - Their job is to drive traffic. Conflict drives traffic. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:08pm 12/8/25
        The Engineering Sham Playoffs Network? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:59pm 12/8/25
        I thought for sure that the P was for Prister [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:54pm 12/8/25
    - Do they know they messed up or is it more politics? - NDWisconsin - 7:58pm 12/8/25
      - I would say it is somewhat politics, but the floating of the talking point about nixing the weekly - LanceManion - 8:07pm 12/8/25
        Well said. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:56pm 12/8/25
        
        I think nixing the weekly show is even worse... - irishboyd - 8:15pm 12/8/25
        Agree 100%. The only thing worse that visibility is no visibility. - LanceManion - 8:23pm 12/8/25
        I would actually push back on the idea that it was pre-determined... - irishboyd - 8:46pm 12/8/25
    - The agenda was met, they can speak freely now. [NT] - NDNEIL - 7:58pm 12/8/25
      - Could be the case. If so, I hope Brady Q keeps calling bullshit and likewise NBC. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:03pm 12/8/25
        Lost in all this is losing in early season games at home & giving up these late junk TDs. - ELP - 8:46pm 12/8/25
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Theft - Sjnd5359 - 4:45pm 12/8/25 (21) [View All]
- Be aggressive. File a lawsuit. Damages are easily calculated. [NT] - LanceManion - 7:46pm 12/8/25
  - Liability though? Highly questionable at best, unfortunately. [NT] - Bigger Slick - 11:40pm 12/8/25
    - The point of the suit would be discovery and preservation of all communications - LanceManion - 5:56am 12/9/25
      - The possible edits to Dan Patrick's interview of Bevacqua changes my tune. - Bigger Slick - 8:54am 12/9/25
- Indeed...and those responsible stole at least $4M from ND. Here's a call to all ND Alum and Sub- [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:02pm 12/8/25
  - The LAST PARAGRAPH is 100% why ND was left out. Hands down. [NT] - oldirish - 7:33pm 12/8/25
    - Yes, because they continue to misrepresent it... - Chrisb - 9:48am 12/9/25
      - Agreed. That's what I'm saying. They want to see all the money go to the Conference and be disbursed - oldirish - 11:14am 12/9/25
- Greg Mcelroy "Frankly, if Notre Dame is in this field, I think they are a top two to win this thing" [NT] - DonMiller - 4:58pm 12/8/25
  - What are Greg's thoughts on Alabama making the playoff? [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 7:12pm 12/8/25
    - He said the ga game actually helped their metrics and sos [NT] - beefy78 - 8:56pm 12/8/25
      - Like Herbstreit, he is talking out of both sides of his mouth after the fact to cover up his bias & - BaronVonZemo - 11:57pm 12/8/25
  - I swear that Greg said Miami should be in over ND because of head to head last week on his show. - ELP - 6:52pm 12/8/25
    - He did - McIrish - 7:03pm 12/8/25
      - So if he thinks ND is top two then he must think Miami is top of the pops. [NT] - ELP - 7:52pm 12/8/25
  - It’s pretty obvious we were played the whole time. I think the committee screwed themselves as - ndphysics - 5:34pm 12/8/25
    - Committee doesn't care that ND has opted out. They don't care that Irish Nation & Pete are upset. - ELP - 8:06pm 12/8/25
    - Bama are Chumps. - AustinIrish88 - 7:47pm 12/8/25
    - The Committee operated in bad faith...and produced a conspicuously contrived outcome. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 5:57pm 12/8/25
- Stole a whole season. Rendered worthless. [NT] - hipND - 4:55pm 12/8/25
- Re: Theft [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:46pm 12/8/25
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worth a read, sorry if already posted....ND situation [NT] [LINK] - DonMiller - 4:08pm 12/8/25 (13) [View All]
- honestly, your best contribution ever. (only needed one) [NT] - hipND - 9:35am 12/9/25
- Thanks.....Most Excellent. - The Woj - 9:15am 12/9/25
- Awesome! [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:20am 12/9/25
- Thanks Don, one of the best articles. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 8:36pm 12/8/25
- Good piece. Unwittingly, the committee gave ND leverage here. Use it. [NT] - LanceManion - 7:49pm 12/8/25
- If you think this is just about football you are not paying attention. Apply the “Independence” - oldirish - 7:39pm 12/8/25
- Thanks Don. [NT] - whatsamataU - 7:36pm 12/8/25
- Should be required reading for the brain dead sports media! [NT] - nd-usmc - 7:24pm 12/8/25
- Thanks Don! Great find [NT] - McIrish - 6:03pm 12/8/25
- That was freaking amazing. Let’s blow this whole shit up. Don’t back off just push it off the cliff [NT] - ndphysics - 5:12pm 12/8/25
- Thx, excellent article [NT] - NDQuebec - 4:58pm 12/8/25
- Great read. I feel like a cannon shot has gone off. [NT] - billybaroo - 4:40pm 12/8/25
- Solid article, Don. Thanks. [NT] - Hensou - 4:40pm 12/8/25
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Jeff Sagarin's College Football Ratings [LINK] - bobdrake - 3:35pm 12/8/25 (1) [View All]
- That is why they kept ND out [NT] - GeorgiaNDFan - 3:40pm 12/8/25
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CFP cartel - Jburkley - 3:26pm 12/8/25 (0) [View All]
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Another aspect of not making the playoff is Freeman has time now to interview for NFL jobs [NT] - irish93 - 2:46pm 12/8/25 (13) [View All]
- He loves ND and the opportunity to be a life changer in college. He is a great example of a - THEISMANCARR - 8:44pm 12/8/25
- Our most important opponent for the next 2 months is the NY Giants. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 4:21pm 12/8/25
  - I don’t think it happens, but I’d be super worried if the Bengals job opens up [NT] - NDNEIL - 5:13pm 12/8/25
- He’s not going to NFL; that’s not his cup of tea… [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:09pm 12/8/25
  - I agree! But what about the CFL? [NT] - whatsamataU - 4:27pm 12/8/25
    - Stop! That’s just silly talk. Your’re better than that… [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:34pm 12/8/25
- Can we just stop this nonsense! - D2 - 4:07pm 12/8/25
  - Correct. Freeman is not leaving ND. [NT] - SanJoseCAFan - 4:39pm 12/8/25
  - Agreed. [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:10pm 12/8/25
- Notre Dame should end that option immediately, if they haven’t already [NT] - NDNEIL - 2:50pm 12/8/25
  - No need to do that, Marcus isn’t crazy… [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:18pm 12/8/25
  - Perhaps tomorrow's presser.... [NT] - weisguy19 - 2:55pm 12/8/25
    - Words don’t matter, action does… [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:38pm 12/8/25
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Other than Brady Quinn take, this is also a balanced missle to the CFP Commitee.... [NT] [LINK] - billybaroo - 2:03pm 12/8/25 (11) [View All]
- On its own, I'm fine with Miami being selected ahead of us. It's everything around it. - jakers - 2:14pm 12/8/25
  - ND has a choice. Go hard now or file this away and use it as leverage for something else. - LanceManion - 7:53pm 12/8/25
  - Me too. They won. But we got hosed the way it all went down. - shep - 4:09pm 12/8/25
  - ESPN debated Miami/ND throughout the Stanfurd telecast. It was their entire commentary in 4th Q. [NT] - NDblues - 2:38pm 12/8/25
    - ESPN delenda est! [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:27pm 12/8/25
  - And people were figuring this out on Tuesday night... - irishboyd - 2:29pm 12/8/25
  - Agree. (I wouldn't say "fine" but I understand how it could happen. ) [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:18pm 12/8/25
    - The head to head discussion should have happened in the first poll - NDWisconsin - 2:36pm 12/8/25
      - My guess would be that that comparison was made then. Why exclude it? - DiscoRick - 3:03pm 12/8/25
    - I honestly wouldn't care that much if I thought we'd lose, anyway. - jakers - 2:27pm 12/8/25
      - That was the problem, Jake. The conferences thought so too… [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 4:56pm 12/8/25
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NOTRE DAME INDEPENDENT FOREVER - robertkolt - 2:01pm 12/8/25 (11) [View All]
- Yost = fu@kin’ WASP Co@ck-$u@ker!!! [NT] - NEPA Irish - 2:15pm 12/8/25
- The days when any college would seek to schedule the Irish are well behind us. - Curly1918 - 2:12pm 12/8/25
  - Didn't ND just sign contracts with Alabama, Clemson, and some other SEC team? [NT] - DiscoRick - 3:07pm 12/8/25
    - Auburn was the other... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 3:13pm 12/8/25
  - Re: The days when any college would seek to schedule the Irish are well behind us. - robertkolt - 2:19pm 12/8/25
- All caps? For something everybody knows? [LINK] - Hensou - 2:09pm 12/8/25
  - Re: All caps? For something everybody knows? - robertkolt - 2:11pm 12/8/25
    - It's not a "headline". - Hensou - 2:25pm 12/8/25
      - Re: It's not a "headline". - robertkolt - 5:07pm 12/8/25
        . [NT] - Hensou - 7:17pm 12/8/25
        
        You are rapidly disgracing yourself. As expected. [NT] - Hensou - 7:15pm 12/8/25
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Meandering More about CFP - Jburkley - 1:30pm 12/8/25 (3) [View All]
- I think this was all orchestrated to make sure the ACC/Big12 don't drop and for expansion. - LanceManion - 1:48pm 12/8/25
- Committee chaired by an SEC AD whose shit team gets more Bowl/playoff money by having Bama in. Naked - TakethetrainKnute - 1:38pm 12/8/25
  - Bingo [NT] - whatsamataU - 2:17pm 12/8/25
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I like Kiffen's idea - why is this so difficult - put the top 12 (or 16) in - Done! [NT] - murph92675 - 1:26pm 12/8/25 (1) [View All]
- If its 12...then it should by 16. Equal number of playoff games for all. Top 16 by a pre-determined - TakethetrainKnute - 1:29pm 12/8/25
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I am sooo proud of the ND football team - I am going to join them! - oldpops - 1:18pm 12/8/25 (0) [View All]
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Minchey gone [NT] - D2 - 12:29pm 12/8/25 (21) [View All]
- I expected him to enter the portal. Good luck Kenny! [NT] - guiness4everyone - 4:05pm 12/8/25
- so close to a degree too. Good luck to him [NT] - 81Brown - 3:54pm 12/8/25
- I think he proved a lot this year by not bolting. I’m hoping and thinking he’s going to do very well [NT] - Frankx - 3:33pm 12/8/25
- He deserves the opportunity to start and make his case for a pro career. - lacan - 2:32pm 12/8/25
- Meh. If he wants a potential shot to play, makes sense. [NT] - oldirish - 2:00pm 12/8/25
- Good luck to him. Talented kid and can do some stuff elsewhere. [NT] - LanceManion - 1:49pm 12/8/25
  - Here are some possibilities [NT] [LINK] - Hensou - 2:37pm 12/8/25
    - Anywhere but Miami. - AlbanyIRISH - 7:35pm 12/8/25
      - 100% [NT] - LanceManion - 7:43pm 12/8/25
        Vandy might be a good choice. [NT] - Hensou - 8:00pm 12/8/25
        He slots into their system pretty well. He's no Pavia, but I think he could do well there. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:10pm 12/8/25
        
        Re: Vandy might be a good choice. [NT] - Hensou - 8:00pm 12/8/25
- He's not going to transfer to someplace to be a backup. That may limit his opportunities. - Hensou - 1:36pm 12/8/25
- Noah Grubbs - Big Train Coming! [NT] - irishslovak - 1:30pm 12/8/25
- He is a good player - OklahomaIrishman - 1:23pm 12/8/25
- Agree with ever post below in this thread. Wish him the best. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:03pm 12/8/25
- Hopefully, he goes to a great school and starts. Best of luck to him [NT] - bobdrake - 1:00pm 12/8/25
- It's the way of the word these days. He deserves his shot. Wish him the best. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:57pm 12/8/25
- Better start developing a backup/ future starter. We have likely one year. [NT] - DiscoRick - 12:43pm 12/8/25
- Best of luck to Kenny! - AlbanyIRISH - 12:30pm 12/8/25
  - He should have no problem finding a good program [NT] - billybaroo - 12:48pm 12/8/25
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Any thoughts on Pete’s press conference tomorrow - NDWisconsin - 12:28pm 12/8/25 (1) [View All]
- I'm guessing the feedback both internally and externally has been deafening. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:34pm 12/8/25
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10 schools have now declined bowl invitations. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:22pm 12/8/25 (4) [View All]
- Kinda funny because even some of the 5-win teams are taking a pass. So long bowls. [NT] - LanceManion - 1:45pm 12/8/25
- Yep. Makes room for expansion of the playoff. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:04pm 12/8/25
  - Any expansion should feature more on campus games. - AlbanyIRISH - 1:09pm 12/8/25
    - Agreed. And I think that is what would happen. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:10pm 12/8/25