OSU hires Matt Patricia; we hire a guy who flamed out at Butgers. ND likes to save a nickel.

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OSU hires Matt Patricia; we hire a guy who flamed out at Butgers. ND likes to save a nickel.

Author: LanceManion (8586 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:36 am on Sep 4, 2025

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I imagine Freman took Ash based on former OSU connections and success he was affiliated with while there. But as an objective hire, Ash leaves quite a bit to be desired.

Fans will justifiably be calling for his and Freeman's heads if A&M is Miami redux, particularly if we lose. The easy solution usually isn't usually the right solution.

That said, reviews of Golden early in his tenure were mixed, so maybe Ash will turn it around.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.

Replies to: "OSU hires Matt Patricia; we hire a guy who flamed out at Butgers. ND likes to save a nickel."

It maybe said it’s too soon but the reality is, Freeman needs to be searching for a new DC. Ash - jimbasil - 10:40pm 9/3/25 (56) [View All]
- Daniels scored, Shuler waited. Rest of D looked that way all night. Sat back rather than attack. [NT] - ND521 - 11:13pm 9/4/25
- Extreme overreaction maybe? - NDQuebec - 6:28pm 9/4/25
- The whole approach to the game was the close to the vest, both the offensive and defensive game ... - lacan - 2:55pm 9/4/25
  - Trying to win college football games via this method almost concedes - ndphysics - 3:00pm 9/4/25
    - And they do it b/c they can't match up physically. So it's excusable. - DiscoRick - 3:02pm 9/4/25
  - Yep, if you want to win, you have to plan to win. Call plays to win. And play to win. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:58pm 9/4/25
- Golden would have blitzed close to 50% of the game. And we'd have won. - jakers - 12:14pm 9/4/25
  - Golden was good, not great. He had his fair share of head scratchers. - DiscoRick - 2:04pm 9/4/25
    - I agree he had headscratchers, and a couple games last year our D got exposed a bit - Turkish - 2:40pm 9/4/25
  - Truth. [NT] - Clem - 1:36pm 9/4/25
  - Freeman wants pressure from the front 4. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:48pm 9/4/25
    - I think they believe they have that type of talent now. It just didn't produce. - DiscoRick - 2:12pm 9/4/25
      - Well, the DL went against that OL in camp. A misappraisal of the OL might've led to a ... - lacan - 2:46pm 9/4/25
        I agree. Maybe both [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:47pm 9/4/25
- Al G laid a few defensive eggs, especially early [NT] - irishone - 12:09pm 9/4/25
- Ash has forgotten more than you'll ever know. - ELP - 11:46am 9/4/25
  - We'd like to see what he remembers that's actually succesful then. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:41pm 9/4/25
- Right. One game in fire the DC. Brilliant Jim [NT] - MuskyTommy - 10:33am 9/4/25
- The reality is you suck as a poster - arnie - 9:31am 9/4/25
  - A fair and balanced assessment. [NT] - Hensou - 10:39am 9/4/25
  - Aw, thanks for the message. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:48am 9/4/25
    - They should make the forum minimum age 16 and over. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:08pm 9/4/25
- I seem to recall our D sucking in our 2nd game last year against a pathetic opponent at home! - Curly1918 - 8:36am 9/4/25
- Maybe, but you wouldn't expect to be fired after your first day on the job. The reality - faircatchcorby - 8:24am 9/4/25
  - Well not having a big body on the D-line hurts. - PaND - 8:29am 9/4/25
    - Interior DL recruiting has not been strong under MF. Solid at the ends, LB and secondary. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:55am 9/4/25
      - Hinish was giving up 50 pounds to their OL. - PaND - 9:04am 9/4/25
        Maybe we need so Olinemen to switch to DT. Get some size in there. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:16pm 9/4/25
        Do we have any DT large dudes who did not play? [NT] - PaND - 3:06pm 9/4/25
        We do, but not 330+ like Miami's oline. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:46pm 9/4/25
        
        I'd argue the difference was their last drive and our last drive - LanceManion - 9:25am 9/4/25
        The tight end drop on the first play on the final drive hurt big time. That play if made - THEISMANCARR - 12:54pm 9/4/25
        
        I agree, I think we were gassed on both sides of the line. - PaND - 9:43am 9/4/25
        I agree re: D. It's not shit. It looks and behaves different than last year. - LanceManion - 10:54am 9/4/25
- OSU hires Matt Patricia; we hire a guy who flamed out at Butgers. ND likes to save a nickel. - LanceManion - 7:36am 9/4/25
  - Nobody who matters will be calling for Freeman's head this year barring a scandal [NT] - Turkish - 2:41pm 9/4/25
    - But they may revisit the coordinators. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:46pm 9/4/25
      - Maybe try to get Lea back. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:52pm 9/4/25
  - On the other hand Patricia was one of the worst head coaches in history. - DiscoRick - 2:18pm 9/4/25
  - Ash has DC'ed a Natty winner. And he was well-regarded at Texas - Turkish - 11:41am 9/4/25
    - Disagree. He managed to be in the right place at the right time. Was also unemployed when hired. [NT] [LINK] - LanceManion - 1:40pm 9/4/25
      - Disagree he won a title or was highly regarded at Texas? Or superior college resume to Patricia? - Turkish - 2:46pm 9/4/25
        The guy has jumped around like a Mexican jumping bean. He rode Fickell's coat tails at OSU. - LanceManion - 3:13pm 9/4/25
  - “ nickels “ But who would have the upper hand over Freeman in the decision making with this vote? [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:23am 9/4/25
    - I don't think this was a $$ saving call, but it didn't hurt. I think we Id'd others but time - LanceManion - 8:51am 9/4/25
  - Ash was a big question mark of mine coming into this season simply because of his track record. - jray - 8:06am 9/4/25
    - I think the passive D, was a consequence of the offensive gameplan with a frosh QB. - DiscoRick - 2:27pm 9/4/25
    - I hope he turns it around quickly, and if not MF takes a heavier hand. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:52am 9/4/25
      - I dont think we can afford to hope. Freeman needs to be involved and get it fixed. - DiscoRick - 2:21pm 9/4/25
- ... [NT] - DiscoRick - 7:08am 9/4/25
  - Re: I doubt Freeman didn't rubber stamp the plan. - DiscoRick - 7:13am 9/4/25
    - ... [NT] - DiscoRick - 7:13am 9/4/25
- The soft zone was underwhelming - AlbanyIRISH - 6:58am 9/4/25
  - Especially against a QB like Beck - NDWisconsin - 11:40am 9/4/25
    - And considering Beck is horrible under pressure. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:22pm 9/4/25
- . [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 6:58am 9/4/25