I think they believe they have that type of talent now. It just didn't produce.

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I think they believe they have that type of talent now. It just didn't produce.

Author: DiscoRick (1715 Posts - Joined: Sep 15, 2021)

Posted at 2:12 pm on Sep 4, 2025

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It was shocking how they'd get stalemated on their initial move and then just stand there looking.

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Replies to: "I think they believe they have that type of talent now. It just didn't produce."

It maybe said it’s too soon but the reality is, Freeman needs to be searching for a new DC. Ash - jimbasil - 10:40pm 9/3/25 (56) [View All]
- Daniels scored, Shuler waited. Rest of D looked that way all night. Sat back rather than attack. [NT] - ND521 - 11:13pm 9/4/25
- Extreme overreaction maybe? - NDQuebec - 6:28pm 9/4/25
- The whole approach to the game was the close to the vest, both the offensive and defensive game ... - lacan - 2:55pm 9/4/25
  - Trying to win college football games via this method almost concedes - ndphysics - 3:00pm 9/4/25
    - And they do it b/c they can't match up physically. So it's excusable. - DiscoRick - 3:02pm 9/4/25
  - Yep, if you want to win, you have to plan to win. Call plays to win. And play to win. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:58pm 9/4/25
- Golden would have blitzed close to 50% of the game. And we'd have won. - jakers - 12:14pm 9/4/25
  - Golden was good, not great. He had his fair share of head scratchers. - DiscoRick - 2:04pm 9/4/25
    - I agree he had headscratchers, and a couple games last year our D got exposed a bit - Turkish - 2:40pm 9/4/25
  - Truth. [NT] - Clem - 1:36pm 9/4/25
  - Freeman wants pressure from the front 4. - AlbanyIRISH - 12:48pm 9/4/25
    - I think they believe they have that type of talent now. It just didn't produce. - DiscoRick - 2:12pm 9/4/25
      - Well, the DL went against that OL in camp. A misappraisal of the OL might've led to a ... - lacan - 2:46pm 9/4/25
        I agree. Maybe both [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:47pm 9/4/25
- Al G laid a few defensive eggs, especially early [NT] - irishone - 12:09pm 9/4/25
- Ash has forgotten more than you'll ever know. - ELP - 11:46am 9/4/25
  - We'd like to see what he remembers that's actually succesful then. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:41pm 9/4/25
- Right. One game in fire the DC. Brilliant Jim [NT] - MuskyTommy - 10:33am 9/4/25
- The reality is you suck as a poster - arnie - 9:31am 9/4/25
  - A fair and balanced assessment. [NT] - Hensou - 10:39am 9/4/25
  - Aw, thanks for the message. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:48am 9/4/25
    - They should make the forum minimum age 16 and over. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:08pm 9/4/25
- I seem to recall our D sucking in our 2nd game last year against a pathetic opponent at home! - Curly1918 - 8:36am 9/4/25
- Maybe, but you wouldn't expect to be fired after your first day on the job. The reality - faircatchcorby - 8:24am 9/4/25
  - Well not having a big body on the D-line hurts. - PaND - 8:29am 9/4/25
    - Interior DL recruiting has not been strong under MF. Solid at the ends, LB and secondary. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:55am 9/4/25
      - Hinish was giving up 50 pounds to their OL. - PaND - 9:04am 9/4/25
        Maybe we need so Olinemen to switch to DT. Get some size in there. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:16pm 9/4/25
        Do we have any DT large dudes who did not play? [NT] - PaND - 3:06pm 9/4/25
        We do, but not 330+ like Miami's oline. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:46pm 9/4/25
        
        I'd argue the difference was their last drive and our last drive - LanceManion - 9:25am 9/4/25
        The tight end drop on the first play on the final drive hurt big time. That play if made - THEISMANCARR - 12:54pm 9/4/25
        
        I agree, I think we were gassed on both sides of the line. - PaND - 9:43am 9/4/25
        I agree re: D. It's not shit. It looks and behaves different than last year. - LanceManion - 10:54am 9/4/25
- OSU hires Matt Patricia; we hire a guy who flamed out at Butgers. ND likes to save a nickel. - LanceManion - 7:36am 9/4/25
  - Nobody who matters will be calling for Freeman's head this year barring a scandal [NT] - Turkish - 2:41pm 9/4/25
    - But they may revisit the coordinators. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:46pm 9/4/25
      - Maybe try to get Lea back. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:52pm 9/4/25
  - On the other hand Patricia was one of the worst head coaches in history. - DiscoRick - 2:18pm 9/4/25
  - Ash has DC'ed a Natty winner. And he was well-regarded at Texas - Turkish - 11:41am 9/4/25
    - Disagree. He managed to be in the right place at the right time. Was also unemployed when hired. [NT] [LINK] - LanceManion - 1:40pm 9/4/25
      - Disagree he won a title or was highly regarded at Texas? Or superior college resume to Patricia? - Turkish - 2:46pm 9/4/25
        The guy has jumped around like a Mexican jumping bean. He rode Fickell's coat tails at OSU. - LanceManion - 3:13pm 9/4/25
  - “ nickels “ But who would have the upper hand over Freeman in the decision making with this vote? [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:23am 9/4/25
    - I don't think this was a $$ saving call, but it didn't hurt. I think we Id'd others but time - LanceManion - 8:51am 9/4/25
  - Ash was a big question mark of mine coming into this season simply because of his track record. - jray - 8:06am 9/4/25
    - I think the passive D, was a consequence of the offensive gameplan with a frosh QB. - DiscoRick - 2:27pm 9/4/25
    - I hope he turns it around quickly, and if not MF takes a heavier hand. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:52am 9/4/25
      - I dont think we can afford to hope. Freeman needs to be involved and get it fixed. - DiscoRick - 2:21pm 9/4/25
- ... [NT] - DiscoRick - 7:08am 9/4/25
  - Re: I doubt Freeman didn't rubber stamp the plan. - DiscoRick - 7:13am 9/4/25
    - ... [NT] - DiscoRick - 7:13am 9/4/25
- The soft zone was underwhelming - AlbanyIRISH - 6:58am 9/4/25
  - Especially against a QB like Beck - NDWisconsin - 11:40am 9/4/25
    - And considering Beck is horrible under pressure. [NT] - DiscoRick - 2:22pm 9/4/25
- . [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 6:58am 9/4/25