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Smoke and mirrors

Author: ndunabomber (6732 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:00 pm on Sep 23, 2025
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First, and foremost, we easily the luckiest defense in the nation. Every break (defensively) went our way all the way up to the end of the BC game, where the offense utterly melted down into a stinking heap.

Second, Baer's defensive scheme was solely focused on stopping the run. He got away with it because we had NFL draft picks along the defensive line, and also at every starting defensive back position. Once those linemen as well as Walton, Sapp, and Earl left, all we had was Vontez Duff (very good player), and he couldn't carry the defensive team like a full backfield could.

Most of the teams that tried to pass against us that year had a lot of pressure coming after them just from those 4 down linemen, but against USC, which had a very good offensive line, along with a 3 time NFL Pro Bowl QB, 4 NFL WR's, etc. They made absolute mincemeat out of our defense, and badly exposed us for our limitations.


Replies to: "Smoke and mirrors"

  • Three best past DC s…..Alvarez, Golden, Minter? [NT] - DonMiller - 10:26pm 9/22/25 (15) [View All]
    • Just talking DC then probably Davie no matter his personnel 19-20 ppg is all you got - Rocketman84 - 7:16am 9/24/25
    • In my lifetime, Barry Alvarez - GrandRapidsDomer - 11:06am 9/23/25
    • Bob Davie was a good DC (but fell victim to the Peter Principle as a HC) [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 8:50am 9/23/25
      • He was a world-class "Peter"... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:54am 9/23/25
        • "Is" [NT] - Clem - 9:24am 9/23/25
    • Yonto - TakethetrainKnute - 7:03am 9/23/25
    • Baer was terrible - ndunabomber - 1:17am 9/23/25
      • Bullsh!t - Fisher01 - 12:08pm 9/24/25
        • Baer stunk up the field at Colorado and UNLV after his time with Ty - ndunabomber - 3:42pm 9/24/25
      • 2002 was solid [NT] - DonMiller - 9:47am 9/23/25
        • Smoke and mirrors - ndunabomber - 12:00pm 9/23/25
          • Thanks for reminding me of Vontez Duff. Dude played all out every play. [NT] - murph78 - 8:20pm 9/23/25
            • And a great guy off the field - ndunabomber - 12:31am 9/24/25
    • Re: Three best past DC s…..Alvarez, Golden and Baer? - ND1966 - 12:46am 9/23/25
    • The Vanderbilt coach was also good [NT] - KWIRISH - 11:05pm 9/22/25
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