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Lots of lost opportunities during Kelly 1.0

Author: ndunabomber (6857 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:04 pm on Sep 29, 2025
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2010 and 2011 should have been BCS bowl teams, but Kelly's stubborn methods of trying to ram square pegs into round holes cost us several wins each year. I'm still pissed at his trying to make Dayne Crist run his offense in a spread-option, run first manner, when we had all of the parts in place for an excellent downfield passing game. That led to his getting his knee blown out, and he was never the same after that.

2012 season is one that I give him full credit for, although Lady Luck was certainly on our side that year, until the end. The funny thing is, that we would have beaten either Kansas State or Oregon, but both of them choked at the end. Alabama was easily the best team in the nation, though, which is why I grudgingly accept that season was about as successful as possible.

2013 should have been a BCS bowl team, possibly even a NC game team, but Everett Golson's actions in the off-season cost us dearly. Still, I give him credit for squeezing out a 9 win season with a MAC backup level quarterback.

2014 could have easily been a NY6 bowl team if the defense weren't so putrid, and the injuries weren't so rampant. His refusal to get rid of Van Gorder cost us at least 4 wins that year.

2015 should have been a playoff team, at the very least, given how much NFL talent was on that roster. Again, Van Gorder's inpetitude cost us at least two games.

2016 should have been a NY6 bowl team as well for the same reasons as 2014. 3 games were lost on special teams blunders, and 5 due to a putrid defense. By all rights, we should have lost the Miami game as well, due to the special teams blunders.



The sheer number of injuries during Kelly 1.0 was astounding, and that was when Paul Longo was at least functional. We actually scared away several recruits (the other St. Brown brothers, especially) when they saw how many knee injuries were just spontaneously occurring.

In 2015 and 2016, Longo was barely even on the premises. His assistants were basically running the program, trying to do what Longo would previously have done. Kelly knew that Longo's health was terrible, but did nothing to replace his good friend with someone better.

It's no coincidence that when we finally got a decent S&C coach in 2017, that the team became much healthier, stronger, etc.


Replies to: "Lots of lost opportunities during Kelly 1.0"

  • “Brian Kelly reminds Notre Dame fans why they're happy he's far away from South Bend“ [NT] [LINK] - whatsamataU - 1:28pm 9/29/25 (23) [View All]
    • He did not represent ND well. Matters more than wins - jrdjr84 - 9:39pm 9/29/25
    • He went 54-9 his final five seasons here - Fisher01 - 3:55pm 9/29/25
      • How many of those 54 were against ranked teams? [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 7:27am 9/30/25
      • Only took him until year 8 to get things rolling and still never beat a Top 15 in the post-season. [NT] - Chrisb - 8:32pm 9/29/25
        • Lots of lost opportunities during Kelly 1.0 - ndunabomber - 10:04pm 9/29/25
          • #1 issue with BK, once he losses 1 game there typically more on the horizon... - Chrisb - 12:40pm 9/30/25
      • Absolutely. I would rather have a beer with Marcus, but lest [NT] - murph78 - 5:52pm 9/29/25
        • Sorry, bad typing - lest we forget, Kelly did well here. [NT] - murph78 - 5:53pm 9/29/25
          • Applaud Kelly for what he did. It can’t be denied that he rebuilt a moribund program. - Sjnd5359 - 1:17pm 10/3/25
          • Well? He was dragging down our all time win % his first 11 seasons. [NT] - Chrisb - 8:33pm 9/29/25
            • Before Kelly got here ND was making Tate Forcier a Heisman candidate [NT] - Fisher01 - 11:35am 9/30/25
              • So instead of Forcier, Kelly made Shoeless Joe Jackson or - IrishChristopher - 8:38am 10/1/25
              • So because he did better than dumpster fire coaches that makes him really good? [NT] - Chrisb - 12:33pm 9/30/25
            • What’s your take on CFP chances? Seems like Deja vu we were having this same discussion a year ago [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 11:06am 9/30/25
              • Right! So last year I thought if we won out we were definitely in, but this year - Chrisb - 12:31pm 9/30/25
                • Well thought out - WoodstockIrish - 3:02pm 9/30/25
                  • My guess... - Chrisb - 10:34pm 9/30/25
                    • Sucks that USC lost and isn’t ranked - WoodstockIrish - 6:18pm 10/1/25
      • He's a very good coach - ndunabomber - 5:23pm 9/29/25
        • He's a slightly above average coach. Great win % vs inferior teams... - Chrisb - 8:38pm 9/29/25
      • Didn't care for him one way or the other but he had a pretty good career at ND - NDQuebec - 4:45pm 9/29/25
        • Yep, people forget what an actual bad coach looks like - Kelly was very good at his job [NT] - Fisher01 - 11:35am 9/30/25
    • They were pretty hard on him this am on Ch 84 [NT] - irishone - 3:02pm 9/29/25
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