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Kelly had a similar situation in 2016

Author: ndunabomber (6916 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:35 am on Oct 13, 2025
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2015 was a season where if Brian Van Gorder had simply exercised a shred of logic, we would have been in the playoffs, and maybe in the NCG. We could have beaten anyone in the nation, except Alabama.

2016 was a season where Brian Kelly choked in seven games, where we lost by one score, often times by special teams blunders, but mostly defensive ineptitude. Even the eighth loss, against USC, was winnable.

The Board of Trustees gave him a mulligan based on that 2015 season, and at least he elevated his game during the Kelly 2.0 era.



I honestly believed that Penn State would give Franklin a similar ultimatum after this year, seeing how he could have finished with at least a bowl-eligible team, but it appears that their Board of Trustees isn't quite as forgiving as ours.

I would even argue that James Franklin had better success than Brian Kelly did. At least he won some NY6 bowl games, in addition to last year's semifinal CFP appearance.


But, something truly stinks in Happy Valley, and it's only logical to surmise that the powers-that-be could only keep it covered up for so long, no matter how much tasty butter cream frosting they spread on a moldy cake.


McElroy and Cubelic were having a discussion over this on their radio show (highly recommend people listen to it, if possible), and said that there were rumblings about how Franklin was constantly being quite unpleasant towards his staff, his players, and just about everyone else, off camera. I'm more inclined to believe them, since they tend to be better informed than most of the other talk show folks.


Replies to: "Kelly had a similar situation in 2016"

  • Just suppose...what if Penn St. players refused to play unless Franklin was reinstated? - MarkHarman - 1:03am 10/13/25 (14) [View All]
    • Just like in the movie Hoosiers? [NT] [LINK] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 4:06pm 10/13/25
      • Gotta have a "Chitwood" though... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:11am 10/14/25
    • More realistic: players refuse to play in a bowl game without additional $$$ [NT] - LanceManion - 8:46am 10/13/25
    • The sympathy for Franklin here is bizarre. - MAS - 7:40am 10/13/25
      • I really don't disagree with most of the points you've made. - jakers - 11:11am 10/13/25
      • Kick them when they’re down but don’t kill them syndrome. [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:57am 10/13/25
      • Kelly had a similar situation in 2016 - ndunabomber - 9:35am 10/13/25
        • JF can't hold BK's jockstrap. Only one of JF's NY6 Bowl wins was a Top-10 Team (Utah 8th). - Turkish - 10:35am 10/13/25
      • I think you're missing my point - MarkHarman - 8:30am 10/13/25
        • How'd that turn out? There also is NIL at play, and no admin is going to let the inmates run the as - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:31am 10/13/25
      • I agree...though I understand wanting him to remain THERE. - TakethetrainKnute - 7:50am 10/13/25
        • Forget about any of us knowing he ws done... - MAS - 7:51am 10/13/25
          • You could see it quite clearly on his face as the game was ending... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:56am 10/13/25
    • By the looks of it they weren't playing anyways, so that leverage went away a while ago. [NT] - Clem - 5:09am 10/13/25
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