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True, but there are mitigating circumstances

Author: ndunabomber (6916 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:05 pm on Oct 17, 2025
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I agree that he was basically pushed too far up, too quickly, and Brian Kelly was the enabler.

He got away with it because Brian Kelly was there to run things for him, and once he was given full autonomy, there were way too many silly mistakes being made, especially in 2022.

Granted, in 2022, he was working with a bad QB situation, but it was partially his own fault for nixing Coach Freeman's suggestion that we bring in a transfer portal guy for that year.

In 2023, he had plenty of offensive talent to work with, but kept trying to stick square pegs into round holes in Tuscaloosa. He was being foolish, trying to turn Jalen Milroe and Tyler Buchner into dink 'n dunk QB's, and Ty Simpson (more of a pure pocket passer) into a spread option runner.

Once Nick Saban put his foot down, and told him to start using Jalen Milroe's arm strength to establish a downfield passing game, the offense finally hit a nice stride.


With regards to his pro career as an OC...

...it's the Browns after all. They are the graveyard for many a promising NFL player or coach.

Their roster isn't exactly stacked with good players, and every time they stumble upon a good roster, they end up trading them away in a fire sale.

I'm actually surprised they didn't elevate Bill Musgrave to the OC position, given that he has had decades of experience coaching at all levels, both as a position coach and an OC. Musgrave is a proven commodity.


Replies to: "True, but there are mitigating circumstances"

  • Rees doing very poorly in Cleveland. - Hensou - 5:08pm 10/17/25 (21) [View All]
    • True, but there are mitigating circumstances - ndunabomber - 7:05pm 10/17/25
    • You are such a child - D2 - 5:25pm 10/17/25
      • No, Rees chose Alabama/ Saban over ND ( to our benefit but….). Agree w Hensou [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:57pm 10/17/25
        • I am merely pointing out that his resume does not match his salary history. - Hensou - 7:04pm 10/17/25
      • GOAT is miffed that his own mediocrity hasn't also led to millions. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 6:50pm 10/17/25
        • Nor has your inferiority. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:58pm 10/17/25
          • Call the burn unit! [NT] - LanceHarbor - 7:00pm 10/17/25
        • Not GOAT. Your wealth assumption is laughably insane [NT] - Hensou - 6:54pm 10/17/25
          • Sure GOAT. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 7:01pm 10/17/25
            • Maybe it is one of the 5 people he let use this handle. [NT] - notredame678 - 11:45pm 10/17/25
            • Sure viva [NT] - Hensou - 7:13pm 10/17/25
              • Weird. Viva posted here a good decade or more before you showed up. - LanceHarbor - 10:15pm 10/17/25
                • I lurked long before I posted. [NT] - Hensou - 7:37am 10/18/25
      • I spoke the truth. Only a child would be hurt by it. - Hensou - 5:38pm 10/17/25
        • D2 has it right, man. Why go out of your way to bash a dude? Grow up, ok? [NT] - murph78 - 5:40pm 10/17/25
          • Care to deal with the hard truth? - Hensou - 5:46pm 10/17/25
    • Give him a break, he’ll be back here someday [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 5:12pm 10/17/25
      • There goes my dinner, [NT] - whatsamataU - 7:29pm 10/17/25
        • Agree [NT] - Hensou - 7:33pm 10/17/25
      • Don't want him here unless... - ndunabomber - 7:06pm 10/17/25
      • He’s going to have to step it up to accomplish that. [NT] - Hensou - 5:47pm 10/17/25
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