both had their careers affected by injuries and/or poor coaching.
Dayne Christ came in as an excellent prospect as a drop back passer. He had one of the strongest arms I have seen. He also had the athletic ability to scramble away from trouble and to pick up yards with his legs. He looked very good as a freshman under Weis, up until a bad leg injury. Under Kelly, he was used in a way that did not maximize his talents, to say the least. Then a second serious leg injury doomed him again. When he came back, Kelly foolishly continued to try to use him poorly. He was never able to recover.
I think that Kiel saw how he was going to be used by Kelly, and that it didn't really play to his strengths either. He transferred and was a pretty good QB at Cincinnati before a serious injury pretty much ended it for him.
The miss wasn't due to the player, but in both of these cases it falls on the coaches for trying to use them in ways that did not put them in the best situation to be successful.
By misses, I hope you don't mean busts. I know they didn't have the ND careers we all hoped for, yet
Replies to: "By misses, I hope you don't mean busts. I know they didn't have the ND careers we all hoped for, yet"
- Interesting, 4 of the top 25 highest rated ND recruits are in the 2026 class, according to 247Sports [LINK]
- FoolBear - 11:24am 10/21/25
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- Sam Young was one Big Muchacho. [NT]
- NDblues - 11:46am 10/21/25
- If memory serves, when Charlie Weis' wife met Sam Young as a recruit she made a comment that - FoolBear - 1:44pm 10/21/25
- Wasn’t Sam Young the guy that knocked on Charlie’s door at 6am asking him how to be a leader? [NT] - jray - 10:13pm 10/21/25
- Yeah, and played like a big cream puff!! [NT]
- NEPA Irish - 6:49pm 10/21/25
- First ever TRUE FR starter on the OL and made AA team, guy was a helluva pass protector. - Rocketman84 - 9:24pm 10/21/25
- And started 21 games in the NFL - ndunabomber - 8:07am 10/22/25
- First ever TRUE FR starter on the OL and made AA team, guy was a helluva pass protector. - Rocketman84 - 9:24pm 10/21/25
- If memory serves, when Charlie Weis' wife met Sam Young as a recruit she made a comment that - FoolBear - 1:44pm 10/21/25
- Since 2000? Clausen was #1, Jaylon was #2, Te'o was #3 then Sam Young and Floyd were top 10 - Rocketman84 - 11:28am 10/21/25
- Some interesting names on that list: Dayne Crist #9, Gunner Kiel #12 some big QB misses there!!!! - FoolBear - 1:31pm 10/21/25
- Want a few more QB misses? Jurko, Wimbush, Buchner. More than our fair share of bad luck at QB [NT]
- NDQuebec - 6:40pm 10/21/25
- Jurko would've been fine if he stayed at ND [NT]
- Rocketman84 - 9:09pm 10/21/25
- He just needed to stay healthy - ndunabomber - 9:14pm 10/21/25
- Yea, he had everything needed to be successful until the injury bug messed with his head [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:16pm 10/22/25
- He just needed to stay healthy - ndunabomber - 9:14pm 10/21/25
- Jurko would've been fine if he stayed at ND [NT]
- Rocketman84 - 9:09pm 10/21/25
- By misses, I hope you don't mean busts. I know they didn't have the ND careers we all hoped for, yet - Irish_Demon - 2:26pm 10/21/25
- I remember Crist going to KU and that did not work at all. [NT]
- FoolBear - 4:18pm 10/21/25
- He was no where near the QB at Kansas that he was even at ND - Irish_Demon - 4:35pm 10/21/25
- Unfortunately, it is fair to call Crist a bust. - jakers - 4:16pm 10/21/25
- I get it. But I don't agree with all of that. - Irish_Demon - 5:04pm 10/21/25
- Exactly - ndunabomber - 3:37pm 10/21/25
- I remember Crist going to KU and that did not work at all. [NT]
- FoolBear - 4:18pm 10/21/25
- Want a few more QB misses? Jurko, Wimbush, Buchner. More than our fair share of bad luck at QB [NT]
- NDQuebec - 6:40pm 10/21/25
- Some interesting names on that list: Dayne Crist #9, Gunner Kiel #12 some big QB misses there!!!! - FoolBear - 1:31pm 10/21/25
- Sam Young was one Big Muchacho. [NT]
- NDblues - 11:46am 10/21/25