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I get it. But I don't agree with all of that.

Author: Irish_Demon (2826 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:04 pm on Oct 21, 2025
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Yeah I guess if you go on just where he was ranked as a recruit and how his career played out, then the label unfortunately is there. I don't agree that he didn't deserve that ranking. His tools were about as good for a drop back prospect as there was. He and Andrew Luck were the top 2 rated drop back prospects in 2008. Luck went to a system that used his strengths, and Crist went to one that took away his strengths. I think it would be interesting to speculate what would have happened had Luck gone to ND and Crist to Stanford.

Dayne Crist was not a spread QB. He did not do well with the finesse dink and dunk passes. What he did do well was use his strong arm in a more vertical passing game. If Kelly had modified his approach to fit his personel, Crist still could have been really good. He showed it in that first season as a starter. Against Michigan, he had ND rolling until he took a hit that caused him to leave the game. Rees came in and threw an interception that allowed Michigan back in the game. Then it was Diaco's inability to harness Denard Robinson that lost that game. Against Michigan State, he was looking like a future Heismann candidate. Again, the D and special teams lost the game.

I will say that Crist had a fragile psyche that was not helped by Kelly's constant purple faced tirades against him. By the time he left ND and went to Kansas, he was a shell of what he was when he entered ND. His career was disappointing but to put a bust label on him is a little much when so much of what happened to him was out of his control. I also commend him on his love for ND and his willingness to stick with the school even though he had come here to play in Charlie Weis' system that fit him much better.


Replies to: "I get it. But I don't agree with all of that."

  • Interesting, 4 of the top 25 highest rated ND recruits are in the 2026 class, according to 247Sports [LINK] - FoolBear - 11:24am 10/21/25 (18) [View All]
    • Sam Young was one Big Muchacho. [NT] - NDblues - 11:46am 10/21/25
      • If memory serves, when Charlie Weis' wife met Sam Young as a recruit she made a comment that - FoolBear - 1:44pm 10/21/25
        • Wasn’t Sam Young the guy that knocked on Charlie’s door at 6am asking him how to be a leader? [NT] - jray - 10:13pm 10/21/25
        • Yeah, and played like a big cream puff!! [NT] - NEPA Irish - 6:49pm 10/21/25
          • First ever TRUE FR starter on the OL and made AA team, guy was a helluva pass protector. - Rocketman84 - 9:24pm 10/21/25
            • And started 21 games in the NFL - ndunabomber - 8:07am 10/22/25
    • Since 2000? Clausen was #1, Jaylon was #2, Te'o was #3 then Sam Young and Floyd were top 10 - Rocketman84 - 11:28am 10/21/25
      • Some interesting names on that list: Dayne Crist #9, Gunner Kiel #12 some big QB misses there!!!! - FoolBear - 1:31pm 10/21/25
        • Want a few more QB misses? Jurko, Wimbush, Buchner. More than our fair share of bad luck at QB [NT] - NDQuebec - 6:40pm 10/21/25
          • Jurko would've been fine if he stayed at ND [NT] - Rocketman84 - 9:09pm 10/21/25
            • He just needed to stay healthy - ndunabomber - 9:14pm 10/21/25
              • Yea, he had everything needed to be successful until the injury bug messed with his head [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:16pm 10/22/25
        • By misses, I hope you don't mean busts. I know they didn't have the ND careers we all hoped for, yet - Irish_Demon - 2:26pm 10/21/25
          • I remember Crist going to KU and that did not work at all. [NT] - FoolBear - 4:18pm 10/21/25
            • He was no where near the QB at Kansas that he was even at ND - Irish_Demon - 4:35pm 10/21/25
          • Unfortunately, it is fair to call Crist a bust. - jakers - 4:16pm 10/21/25
            • I get it. But I don't agree with all of that. - Irish_Demon - 5:04pm 10/21/25
          • Exactly - ndunabomber - 3:37pm 10/21/25
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