People talked themselves into actually believing that if we were any good at all we should destroy Miami
Completely ignoring the fact that we haven't beat them in Miami since 1977...in all of existence they've only beaten us outside of Miami once, but "in Miami" the 1989 team (arguably the best team of my lifetime which includes 3 NC teams +1 that was robbed) got blown out
People were being so delusional about it that they used Notre Dame (a Northern team) beating PSU (a Northern team) in the Orange Bowl in Miami in JANUARY, as justification that playing in Miami in August against Miami would no longer be an issue
Many had already decided anything less than a blowout win meant we sucked...when you come back to reality and look at losing our DC, losing X and B Mo and our interior DL, our OL injuries and a first time starter at QB, it's more realistic to be glad we didn't get done like the '89 or '17 teams
Replies to: "Part of it has to do with expectations"
- Devil's Advocate: Why Miami and Texas should be ranked over the Irish - MarkHarman - 8:29am 11/30/25
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- Jesus H Christ - would you stop already?! - Nigel Tufnel - 1:08pm 11/30/25
- Amen, brother. [NT] - Clem - 1:23pm 11/30/25
- Eye test man, eye test. Remember how everyone used to talk about that? I think we are one of the - THEISMANCARR - 11:15am 11/30/25
- There is "game control" data which the committee reportedly - jrdjr84 - 11:50am 11/30/25
- Yeah, they took a NC from us in 93 on eye test...in '89 it was H2H, 4 short years later not so much [NT] - Chrisb - 11:33am 11/30/25
- Re: Devil's Advocate: Why Miami and Texas should be ranked over the Irish - IrishOkie - 8:51am 11/30/25
- But, there’s a reason Notre Dame was the biggest Bowl draw before playoffs existed. - conorlarkin - 9:31am 11/30/25
- announcers said it very well last night. ND is a top 12 team but the rules of the playoffs might - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:33am 11/30/25
- Playoff rules aren't the problem. Losing to Miami and A&M is. No one else to blame. [NT]
- ELP - 9:16am 11/30/25
- Stop! No one else in the country had a more difficult first two games... - Chrisb - 10:41am 11/30/25
- You stop. Either or both of those games were more than winnable. Especially A&M. - ELP - 10:51am 11/30/25
- Both lost on the last play of the game + A&M got away with - KWIRISH - 11:11am 11/30/25
- Doesn't change the validity of what I said. There are 12 CFP teams, but only about 3 - Chrisb - 11:09am 11/30/25
- You stop. Either or both of those games were more than winnable. Especially A&M. - ELP - 10:51am 11/30/25
- yep, i’ve been asking for months, what the hell went on in fall camp for ND to look so - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:30am 11/30/25
- Part of it has to do with expectations - Chrisb - 11:04am 11/30/25
- I'm more concerned about the loss to A&M. The defense looked horrendous. MF is a a DC by trait. I - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:13am 11/30/25
- I agree the D looked like trash, but I thought they looked lost not soft - Chrisb - 11:28am 11/30/25
- I disagree. One reason why Holtz was successful was because he would take control of a position or - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:41am 11/30/25
- Holtz already had 17 years of College HC experience before he came to ND... - Chrisb - 12:10pm 11/30/25
- I disagree. One reason why Holtz was successful was because he would take control of a position or - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:41am 11/30/25
- I agree the D looked like trash, but I thought they looked lost not soft - Chrisb - 11:28am 11/30/25
- I'm more concerned about the loss to A&M. The defense looked horrendous. MF is a a DC by trait. I - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:13am 11/30/25
- Part of it has to do with expectations - Chrisb - 11:04am 11/30/25
- Stop! No one else in the country had a more difficult first two games... - Chrisb - 10:41am 11/30/25
- The announcers are paid by espn. Who hates ND. - Hensou - 8:43am 11/30/25
- Stop it. Everybody hates ND. [NT]
- whatsamataU - 8:55am 11/30/25
- Half the country does. The other half loves them. [NT]
- Hensou - 9:15am 11/30/25
- ND is like Trump. Half love ND. Half hate ND. Fandom is divided along geographic and religious - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 9:32am 11/30/25
- Half the country does. The other half loves them. [NT]
- Hensou - 9:15am 11/30/25
- Their job is to generate interest. It was a boring game. ESPN (Disney) probably does hate ND - LanceManion - 8:49am 11/30/25
- Stop it. Everybody hates ND. [NT]
- whatsamataU - 8:55am 11/30/25
- Playoff rules aren't the problem. Losing to Miami and A&M is. No one else to blame. [NT]
- ELP - 9:16am 11/30/25
- Jesus H Christ - would you stop already?! - Nigel Tufnel - 1:08pm 11/30/25