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I'm in the camp Miami and ND should have been in. Obviously, the group of 5 inclusions are awful,

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16633 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:05 am on Dec 8, 2025
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especially given neither were at all competitive against any of the Power 4 teams they played this year. The inclusion of 5 SEC teams is a poor reflection on the sport, and the CFP committee completely discredited itself the way everything was handled, not just yesterday but throughout the entire ranking process. As a side note, it's interesting no one else from the committee is allowed to comment on the proceedings and no reporters are allowed to listen to the debates.

We all have to admit ND goes into every year with a one-loss ceiling to feel at all safe about playoff inclusion. ND knew the importance of the first two games and frankly, blew it. The Miami game plan was head scratching, but I can put that in the acceptable column given a new QB, new DC, being on the road and playing in a tropical rain forest. The A&M game was, simply put, a debacle. ND had 2 weeks to prepare, still had a defense that looked lost and blew a double digit lead. MF and the entire defensive staff should have to answer some tough questions about the transition to Ash. I also have concerns about Denbrock and Rudolph, but those are more total year than first two games specific.

I'm not a fan of the way ND has handled its Bowl Invite. There is an optics angle that has to be recognized, and ND did not handle this well. I'm not saying they had to go, but a PR statement shortly after being snubbed with no reference to a team vote, falling short of expectations, a MF press conference, playing for championships, etc. is a bad look. I'm looking at how Clark Lea handled everything, and it's just better.

I do think ND should have gone to a bowl and beat the hell out of a quality opponent. 11-2 with a solid bowl win and probably finishing in the top 5 is a better PR line to recruits and reflection on the program than 10-2 and shutting it down. It just is. Yes, yes, everyone can say a bowl was a no win proposition for ND and an everything to gain for its opponent and ESPN, but that is the reality of ND.


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Replies to: "I'm in the camp Miami and ND should have been in. Obviously, the group of 5 inclusions are awful,"

  • I'm in the camp Miami and ND should have been in. Obviously, the group of 5 inclusions are awful, - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:05am 12/8/25 (20) [View All]
    • I think the bowl decision was right, and we don't have enough info to speak to timing. - LanceManion - 11:44am 12/8/25
    • Completely disagree [NT] - ColeyO - 11:39am 12/8/25
      • say more [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 12:03pm 12/8/25
    • No way we should go to a bowl game. - Hensou - 10:14am 12/8/25
      • MF and the AD should have told the team to take a day and that they'll honor the decision of the - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:27am 12/8/25
        • I think Pete Bevacqua knows what he is doing. I'd prefer his leadership to yours. [NT] - Hensou - 11:07am 12/8/25
          • He’s not handling the pr side well and got taken to the cleaners last week [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:13am 12/8/25
            • He's on the war path today. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:33am 12/8/25
            • Compare his resume to yours. You are the one having a tantrum. [NT] - Hensou - 11:15am 12/8/25
      • Exactly, why thank them for undermining the credibilty of the sport. - DiscoRick - 10:21am 12/8/25
        • Then just become a club sport. ND could easily have rejected the bowl invite without looking like - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:29am 12/8/25
          • Ridiculous comments, really. [NT] - Hensou - 11:05am 12/8/25
          • They didn't have tantrum. That is absurd. [NT] - Hensou - 11:03am 12/8/25
          • ... [NT] - DiscoRick - 10:30am 12/8/25
            • Re: Didn't appear that they did have a tantrum. More like a conscientious objection. - DiscoRick - 10:33am 12/8/25
              • I'm mostly indifferent, but the way they handled it is not a good look. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:39am 12/8/25
                • I'm sure some view it that way. But what does playing BYU on ESPN do for them? Nothing. [NT] - DiscoRick - 10:41am 12/8/25
                  • then ND should say its goal every year is to play for championships & that any bowl invite will be - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:51am 12/8/25
                    • I'm ok with them declining further Bowl games not part of the playoffs. - DiscoRick - 12:27pm 12/8/25
                    • Each year is different. Some years we don't deserve to be in the CFP. This year we definitely did. [NT] - Hensou - 11:05am 12/8/25

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