The fact that ND has not joined a conference so far is not evidence that it will not be beneficial to ND to join one in the future; it is only evidence that it was beneficial in the past.
If the situation changes, so should ND's analysis.
Independence is not an end in and of itself. It is a means to an end.
I assume we all agree on that.
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So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND.
Replies to: "So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND."
- "Join a Conference" is such a lazy and ignorant take. - clements2 - 7:27pm 12/9/25
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- You are way too dumb to be the real Tommy Clements..... [NT] - irishslovak - 11:49pm 12/9/25
- That worked out well for BYU. And the ACC had to go nuclear on ND b/c of its stupid - LanceManion - 8:04pm 12/9/25
- Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 8:10pm 12/9/25
- People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT]
- LanceManion - 9:12pm 12/9/25
- Absolutely. [NT] - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
- People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT]
- LanceManion - 9:12pm 12/9/25
- Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 8:10pm 12/9/25
- There are tons of uninformed lazy talking points coming from media talking heads. - ELP - 7:55pm 12/9/25
- Because there is no way to refute it.. - irishboyd - 9:11pm 12/9/25
- You're begging the question. - MAS - 7:49pm 12/9/25
- Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 9:02pm 12/9/25
- So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 9:05pm 12/9/25
- I think there is a precedent of the athletic department making some foolish decisions. [NT] - MAS - 9:07pm 12/9/25
- That’s such an easy out - WoodstockIrish - 9:06pm 12/9/25
- If it's not obvious that being independent is beneficial to ND - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
- So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 9:05pm 12/9/25
- I assume ND stays independent for their benefit - clements2 - 7:55pm 12/9/25
- I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 8:26pm 12/9/25
- ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT]
- clements2 - 8:31pm 12/9/25
- In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 9:00pm 12/9/25
- Big East is decent, but starting to show cracks. - clements2 - 9:02pm 12/9/25
- In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 9:00pm 12/9/25
- ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT]
- clements2 - 8:31pm 12/9/25
- So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND. - NedoftheHill - 8:07pm 12/9/25
- Yes. - clements2 - 8:13pm 12/9/25
- I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 8:26pm 12/9/25
- Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 9:02pm 12/9/25
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