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Agreed. But that's not my point...

Author: clements2 (16992 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:10 pm on Dec 9, 2025
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Every program does what's in their best interest financially. If joining a conference was in ND's best interest, it would join one. If being independent were more beneficial to other teams, they would be independent.

Why this is controversial is beyond me. Are people this fucking dense? Every program does what is in their best interest. Period.


Replies to: "Agreed. But that's not my point..."

  • "Join a Conference" is such a lazy and ignorant take. - clements2 - 7:27pm 12/9/25 (21) [View All]
    • You are way too dumb to be the real Tommy Clements..... [NT] - irishslovak - 11:49pm 12/9/25
    • That worked out well for BYU. And the ACC had to go nuclear on ND b/c of its stupid - LanceManion - 8:04pm 12/9/25
      • Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 8:10pm 12/9/25
        • People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT] - LanceManion - 9:12pm 12/9/25
          • Absolutely. [NT] - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
    • There are tons of uninformed lazy talking points coming from media talking heads. - ELP - 7:55pm 12/9/25
      • Because there is no way to refute it.. - irishboyd - 9:11pm 12/9/25
    • You're begging the question. - MAS - 7:49pm 12/9/25
      • Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 9:02pm 12/9/25
        • So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 9:05pm 12/9/25
          • I think there is a precedent of the athletic department making some foolish decisions. [NT] - MAS - 9:07pm 12/9/25
          • That’s such an easy out - WoodstockIrish - 9:06pm 12/9/25
            • If it's not obvious that being independent is beneficial to ND - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
      • I assume ND stays independent for their benefit - clements2 - 7:55pm 12/9/25
        • I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 8:26pm 12/9/25
          • ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT] - clements2 - 8:31pm 12/9/25
            • In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 9:00pm 12/9/25
              • Big East is decent, but starting to show cracks. - clements2 - 9:02pm 12/9/25
                • I know, but year-in-and-year-out, Creighton is excellent Marquette's problem is that Smart is - MAS - 9:06pm 12/9/25
        • So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND. - NedoftheHill - 8:07pm 12/9/25
          • Yes. - clements2 - 8:13pm 12/9/25

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