without resorting to standard phrases like the SEC "gauntlet" that Bama played, or something similar that is basically a hypothetical. How many times did we hear about the 4 consecutive ranked teams Bama faced in the middle of the season? I don't know if Brian Driskell was on with McElroy, but he was on Crain and Company, and at one point they were arguing about whether beating Navy by 39 was better than Alabama winning at Mizzou by 3. They basically yelled at each other for several minutes, making the discussion pointless, but the Crain guy really had no hard stats to back up why beating Mizzou was better than beating Navy, it was basically, "well, they're in the SEC, that's why". Mizzou is apparently a quality win for SEC teams, nevermind that the 8 teams they beat (including 1 FCS team) had a grand total of 30 wins, 20 of which were against FBS teams. They beat the bottom 4 teams in the SEC, those 4 teams have 3 combined conference wins, 2 of which were due to H2H games between the 4.
SEC homers only want to use SOS as the metric to differentiate teams, nevermind that the SEC has perfected the art of manipulating it with weak non-conference schedules and 8 conference games. It is easy to dismiss ND fans as being biased, but when many other podcasts not partial to ND are saying the same thing Nd fans are saying, it gets much harder to deflect from it.
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Replies to: "Because there is no way to refute it.."
- "Join a Conference" is such a lazy and ignorant take. - clements2 - 7:27pm 12/9/25
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- You are way too dumb to be the real Tommy Clements..... [NT] - irishslovak - 11:49pm 12/9/25
- That worked out well for BYU. And the ACC had to go nuclear on ND b/c of its stupid - LanceManion - 8:04pm 12/9/25
- Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 8:10pm 12/9/25
- People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT]
- LanceManion - 9:12pm 12/9/25
- Absolutely. [NT] - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
- People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT]
- LanceManion - 9:12pm 12/9/25
- Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 8:10pm 12/9/25
- There are tons of uninformed lazy talking points coming from media talking heads. - ELP - 7:55pm 12/9/25
- Because there is no way to refute it.. - irishboyd - 9:11pm 12/9/25
- You're begging the question. - MAS - 7:49pm 12/9/25
- Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 9:02pm 12/9/25
- So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 9:05pm 12/9/25
- I think there is a precedent of the athletic department making some foolish decisions. [NT] - MAS - 9:07pm 12/9/25
- That’s such an easy out - WoodstockIrish - 9:06pm 12/9/25
- If it's not obvious that being independent is beneficial to ND - clements2 - 10:45pm 12/9/25
- So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 9:05pm 12/9/25
- I assume ND stays independent for their benefit - clements2 - 7:55pm 12/9/25
- I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 8:26pm 12/9/25
- ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT]
- clements2 - 8:31pm 12/9/25
- In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 9:00pm 12/9/25
- Big East is decent, but starting to show cracks. - clements2 - 9:02pm 12/9/25
- In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 9:00pm 12/9/25
- ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT]
- clements2 - 8:31pm 12/9/25
- So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND. - NedoftheHill - 8:07pm 12/9/25
- Yes. - clements2 - 8:13pm 12/9/25
- I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 8:26pm 12/9/25
- Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 9:02pm 12/9/25
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