without resorting to standard phrases like the SEC "gauntlet" that Bama played, or something similar that is basically a hypothetical. How many times did we hear about the 4 consecutive ranked teams Bama faced in the middle of the season? I don't know if Brian Driskell was on with McElroy, but he was on Crain and Company, and at one point they were arguing about whether beating Navy by 39 was better than Alabama winning at Mizzou by 3. They basically yelled at each other for several minutes, making the discussion pointless, but the Crain guy really had no hard stats to back up why beating Mizzou was better than beating Navy, it was basically, "well, they're in the SEC, that's why". Mizzou is apparently a quality win for SEC teams, nevermind that the 8 teams they beat (including 1 FCS team) had a grand total of 30 wins, 20 of which were against FBS teams. They beat the bottom 4 teams in the SEC, those 4 teams have 3 combined conference wins, 2 of which were due to H2H games between the 4.
SEC homers only want to use SOS as the metric to differentiate teams, nevermind that the SEC has perfected the art of manipulating it with weak non-conference schedules and 8 conference games. It is easy to dismiss ND fans as being biased, but when many other podcasts not partial to ND are saying the same thing Nd fans are saying, it gets much harder to deflect from it.
ADVERTISEMENT
Replies to: "Because there is no way to refute it.."
- "Join a Conference" is such a lazy and ignorant take. - clements2 - 12:27am 12/10/25
(25) [View All]
- Because that's what ESPN/Disney wants and ESPN/Disney doesn't take no for an answer [NT] - Clem - 10:28am 12/10/25
- You are way too dumb to be the real Tommy Clements..... [NT] - irishslovak - 4:49am 12/10/25
- That worked out well for BYU. And the ACC had to go nuclear on ND b/c of its stupid - LanceManion - 1:04am 12/10/25
- Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 1:10am 12/10/25
- People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT]
- LanceManion - 2:12am 12/10/25
- Absolutely. [NT] - clements2 - 3:45am 12/10/25
- People are idiots. It is weird that people are so obsessed with this point & ND. [NT]
- LanceManion - 2:12am 12/10/25
- Agreed. But that's not my point... - clements2 - 1:10am 12/10/25
- There are tons of uninformed lazy talking points coming from media talking heads. - ELP - 12:55am 12/10/25
- Because there is no way to refute it.. - irishboyd - 2:11am 12/10/25
- You're begging the question. - MAS - 12:49am 12/10/25
- Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 2:02am 12/10/25
- So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 2:05am 12/10/25
- I think there is a precedent of the athletic department making some foolish decisions. [NT] - MAS - 2:07am 12/10/25
- That’s such an easy out - WoodstockIrish - 2:06am 12/10/25
- If it's not obvious that being independent is beneficial to ND - clements2 - 3:45am 12/10/25
- Ok, thanks. So you don’t know. Got it. It’s so obvious you can’t tell me [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 12:22pm 12/10/25
- If it's not obvious that being independent is beneficial to ND - clements2 - 3:45am 12/10/25
- So ND stays independent to spite itself. - clements2 - 2:05am 12/10/25
- I assume ND stays independent for their benefit - clements2 - 12:55am 12/10/25
- I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 1:26am 12/10/25
- ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT]
- clements2 - 1:31am 12/10/25
- In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 2:00am 12/10/25
- Big East is decent, but starting to show cracks. - clements2 - 2:02am 12/10/25
- Creighton in the Big East and you're worried about ND geography vis a vis the ACC? - TakethetrainKnute - 5:50pm 12/10/25
- Conference geography is a thing of the past. - WoodstockIrish - 7:43pm 12/10/25
- I know, but year-in-and-year-out, Creighton is excellent Marquette's problem is that Smart is - MAS - 2:06am 12/10/25
- Creighton in the Big East and you're worried about ND geography vis a vis the ACC? - TakethetrainKnute - 5:50pm 12/10/25
- Big East is decent, but starting to show cracks. - clements2 - 2:02am 12/10/25
- In contrast to 30 years ago, the ACC is weak from the middle on down. - MAS - 2:00am 12/10/25
- ND would be a good fit in the Big East in hoops. [NT]
- clements2 - 1:31am 12/10/25
- So, you two agree: ND should join a conference if it is beneficial to ND. - NedoftheHill - 1:07am 12/10/25
- Yes. - clements2 - 1:13am 12/10/25
- I don't make that assumption. I mean, you may be correct, but I don't take the decision of - MAS - 1:26am 12/10/25
- Ditto, not obvious at all - WoodstockIrish - 2:02am 12/10/25
Consent Management