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At least try get your $$ correct

Author: D2  (7852 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:02 am on Jun 6, 2026
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I'm not quibbling if you don't like public dollars going to private companies even if it happens all the time. Huge amounts of both federal and state $ are provided to private companies all the time in all the states.

The Bears do not gross "billions." An easy google search will show that the Bears gross around $650 million per year. The Top Grosser in the NFL: The Dallas Cowboys lead the league, grossing an estimated $1.27 billion a year—largely due to unprecedented local sponsorships and massive stadium revenues. The High End: Big-market organizations like the Los Angeles Rams and New England Patriots gross between $750 million and $875 million annually. The League Average/Floor: The remainder of the league clusters closely together, with teams like the Buffalo Bills bringing in around $580 million to $600 million annually. And just to be clear since there are way too many folks who are either purposely ignorant or really are ignorant: The Bears are funding their own stadium to the tune, at this point of roughly $2.5B that is already locked in. The Bears have been trying to achieve two things: negotiate local bodies on taxes (which happens in almost every county in Illinois that wants to attract business) and probably $750M in infrastructure from the state. The ironic thing is that if the Stadium is built in Indiana, Illinois is going to have to make significant improvements to the infrastructure in that area anyway.

I get the aversion to wanting to "pay-off" big business but it happens all the time. From 2020-24 in Illinois alone, there were 27 data centers that benefited by more than $983 million from tax incentives, according to a state report. And data centers do not deliver high numbers of jobs. Heck the 2024 Democratic Convention cost the city roughly $170M and not a peep was heard.

There two prime reasons this stadium deal isn't done: 1) Pritzker wants to run for President in '28 and everything going on in the state now is driven by that obsession. and 2) Chicago-based state politicians have basically taken their ball and bat and gone home. Pouting because they can't have the Bears.

I understand that taxpayers don't want to "fund" big business but it happens quietly and opaquely all the time. I find it pathetically ironic that while the Governor and State Legislature wring that hands about the Bears stadium, the state basically funds the big public sector labor unions (the Teachers Union basically runs the city) by refusing to do anything to mitigate the pension mess in Illinois.

Personally I don't care where they build the stadium as I am Packer fan and in more than 45 years in the Chicago area, I have been to Soldier field 3 times and two of those were for ND games


Replies to: “At least try get your $$ correct”

  • Sounds like the Bears are moving to Indiana. - AlbanyIRISH - 7:10pm 6/5/26 (35) [View All]
    • The fact is that NFL teams are an expensive luxury not all can afford…… - BaronVonZemo - 10:29am 6/8/26
    • Trusting Illinois politicians is dicey under any circumstances - humbaba - 4:11pm 6/6/26
      • They have to keep raising taxes to fund the pension system. - NDWisconsin - 3:37pm 6/7/26
        • Illinois faces one of the largest unfunded pension liabilities in the U.S. - Curly1918 - 2:16pm 6/8/26
          • If they removed the Edgar Ramp, the pension still wouldn’t be fully funded for 25-30 years - NDWisconsin - 4:20pm 6/8/26
        • Bingo [NT] - KWIRISH - 3:39am 6/8/26
    • Illinois/Chicago's long term finances are extremely precarious - Fisher01 - 11:17am 6/6/26
      • Demographic trends are also not promising. - Curly1918 - 12:15pm 6/6/26
    • Looking like the actual location is going to be Hammond. True Bears fans - faircatchcorby - 12:28am 6/6/26
      • Oh yea. Then fill up their gas tanks, buy a carton of cigs & some fireworks before heading home. [NT] - ELP - 1:13pm 6/6/26
        • Yes sir...and good riddance. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 1:22pm 6/7/26
    • Indiana Gov on yesterday’s news gives it 10 days or so. “We won’t be played as fools” . Illinois is - whatsamataU - 10:28pm 6/5/26
    • Bear's will make Indiana looking like chumps used only for leverage. - ghostwriter - 10:12pm 6/5/26
      • Everyone knows that Arlington is the 1st choice, including Indiana. They're making their pitch. - ELP - 11:30pm 6/5/26
        • I believe Hammond is closer to Soldier Field than Arlington (w quite a different tax burden). [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:17am 6/6/26
          • But it isn't closer to the Bear fan base - D2 - 2:06am 6/8/26
            • I’m aware. Just noting it. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:20am 6/8/26
          • What does proximity to Soldier Field have to do with anything? - Irish_Demon - 3:39am 6/6/26
            • Illindy Bears [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:13pm 6/6/26
              • I like "Gare Bears" , but only if they were going to move to Gary. [NT] - ELP - 2:30pm 6/7/26
                • Maybe “The Hammond Eggs”? “The Hammond Organs”? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:34am 6/8/26
                  • The Chicago Packers. - BaronVonZemo - 11:05am 6/8/26
        • Chumps to enrich the McCaskey's. [NT] - ghostwriter - 11:34pm 6/5/26
          • Who are the chumps? The big investment banks, the state with a surplus? Bears fans in a safer area? [NT] - whatsamataU - 12:26pm 6/8/26
          • No matter where they go, the McCaskey's will be rich and get even richer. - ELP - 11:47pm 6/5/26
            • Seems like the unpopular McCaskeys are a nice way to avoid the city's role. - BaronVonZemo - 2:19am 6/6/26
    • It's possible, but still not likely. If the Bears were reallly interested in Indiana... - Irish_Demon - 9:25pm 6/5/26
      • Done deal [NT] - whatsamataU - 12:04pm 6/8/26
      • I think this is exactly right, - murph78 - 9:39pm 6/5/26
        • At least try get your $$ correct - D2 - 3:02am 6/6/26
          • You’re right. I was thinking of their gross franchise valuation of 8.9 billion. [NT] - murph78 - 12:07pm 6/6/26
    • Even Mini-Ditka can't help da Bears fans now... [NT] [IMAGE] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:02pm 6/5/26
    • As a NW Indiana resident I could care less. I'm not going anyway. Mixed bag from Indiana residents. - ELP - 7:32pm 6/5/26
      • Re: As a NW Indiana resident I could care less. I'm not going anyway. Mixed bag from Indiana residents. - RegionRat47 - 9:59pm 6/5/26
        • I don't think it will take a "hail mary" to get the Bears off of the Hammond idea. - Irish_Demon - 3:54am 6/6/26

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