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>The number of Americans still in Afghanistan is not in the thousands...it's in the hundreds (see link)...and there are reasons stated as to why there are stragglers.
>Biden has seen to the evacuation of over 120,000 Afghanis...considering that his predecessor - your Avatar - purposely endeavored to NOT take in any Afghanis...it's strange why you aren't pegging your blood pressure over him on this point.
>As for giving the names of students and staff...there is an August 24th article in the WaPo that says the staff destroyed all servers and records that had IDs, so I'd have to question the assertion you make...there are still a few who haven't been able to get out, but the rapid Taliban takeover has something to do with that...my suspicion is that the Biden admin is trying to negotiate their safe passage with the Taliban, as we speak.
>Your Avatar has repeatedly claimed that even a May 1st exit date was too long...just imagine how that would have gone...I'd bet that we'd have rescued a lot fewer than 120,000 Afghani allies...Biden, fortunately was able to gain four more months...
>Your belief that we could establish our "own terms" after Trump had committed the USA to a deal already is...what's the word?...ludicrous. Biden took over with 2,500 troops in country with the Taliban surging...how, exactly, do you see that playing out?...again...ludicrous...unless you want to ramp up the shooting war all over again.

Try to get your facts straight...and do at least a modicum of research before you post. It's okay to have opposing points of view...but give them some semblance of objectivity.


Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/29/how-number-americans-afghanistan-went-15000-6000/

And btw, your State Dept disagrees with your WH.

And given the scale of this, thousands is a much more reasonable estimate than hundreds…..we shall see.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/media/pentagon-americans-stranded-afghanistan-jen-psaki-term-irresponsible

of a surging Taliban for months now (if not over a year)...plus some not wanting to leave...what's your expectation of a 'good exit'?...Zero left behind?...seriously?

And the timeline was originally going to be May 1st...can you imagine that?...there would have been a small fraction of Afghanis evacuated and truly thousands of Americans stuck there.

There was never going to be a well-ordered transition...stop being a drama queen and be thankful that the Biden admin went to extraordinary lengths to get over 120,000 Afghani allies and nearly all of the 6,000 Americans out...plus the negotiation avenue is still open for post-8/31 citizens and refugees...that's worth paying attention to.

Ross is right, below. And he is a conservative.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/opinion/afghanistan-biden.html

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Biden said a week ago that "no Americans would be left behind".

Americans were left behind.

Who is the liar?

Your flailing on this board over the last week is just further evidence of just how miserably Biden has failed this country.


Link: Biden Holds Firm to Aug. 31 Deadline, Pledges to Leave Afghanistan With No Americans Left Behind

He and rest post false information, straight up lies and alternative facts all day long. This or C19, fake election fraud, 1/6, it doesn’t matter to them. Nothing is sacred to them other than the cult of Trump.

And when pressed on this they will double down and dig deeper. An absolute marvel.

Biden’s Vainglory Brings Abject Humiliation in Afghanistan

If you wanted to capture the geopolitical history of the 21st century so far in a single paragraph, you couldn’t do much better than this:

Twenty years ago, America fought a brief and successful military campaign to oust from power the people who had enabled a terrorist organization to kill as many American citizens as have ever died at the hands of a foreign power in a single day in the nation’s history. A month shy of two decades later, the U.S. pleaded with that same power not to harm its soldiers, its citizens and their allies as it scrambled to complete a chaotic and humiliating retreat that left that former enemy—and American adversaries everywhere—immeasurably stronger.

But as a lesson in the tragic cost of vanity, not much can top the spectacle we have witnessed in the past few weeks: an administration so steeped in self-belief, so driven by self-confidence, so disastrously misled by the vain order it imagined it could impose on the world; a hubris now paid for not in a high-level resignation or even an expression of contrition, but in the lives of American troops, lions again sacrificed to save the faces of the donkeys who lead them.

Biden hubris is a perfect example of the genre: the team of strategic geniuses, lauded by their fellow so-called experts, by allies and above all by themselves, as the smartest guys in the room, the “grown-ups” back to clear up the mess left by those terrible naïfs who preceded them.

The seminal text on how deep this sense of their own ingrained superiority—and how tragically misaligned with geopolitical reality it made them—was the first foreign-policy address Joe Biden gave as president, two weeks after taking office, as he introduced Secretary of State Antony Blinken before an audience of his department’s staff.

Read it and weep. Almost every word should be hung around the neck of the president in light of what we have witnessed these past few weeks, almost every rhetorical cliché a mocking epitaph to a foreign policy so disastrously exposed in less than seven months.

Introducing Mr. Biden and his vice president, masked and standing sentinel behind him, Mr. Blinken said: “In the history of the presidency, no one has brought as much foreign policy experience to the job as Joe Biden. . . . And in Kamala Harris. . . we have a vice president with a long track record of standing up for the security of the American people.”

We never got to hear from the vice president, but the greatest foreign-policy expert in the history of the presidency—Mr. Biden couldn’t resist pointing out that he had been the “Benjamin Franklin Professor of Presidential Politics” at the University of Pennsylvania—shared some of his strategic genius.

This will give you a sense of the priorities: The words “Afghanistan” and even “terrorism” don’t get a single mention, but “LGBTQ” gets three. The president solemnly enumerated the threats his administration would face down: climate change, pandemics and above all the menace to American democracy from political opponents at home, the scourge of white supremacy and systemic racism.

As we watch the spectacle unfold in Afghanistan—the alarming deterioration in American security it represents, the trashing of trust in America’s word, the potentially fatal undermining of allies and the appeasement of enemies, Mr. Biden’s words then produce only uncomprehending disdain now.

“America is back,” of course.

“The United States will live not by the example of our power but by the power of our example.”

“America’s alliances are our greatest asset, and leading with diplomacy means standing shoulder-to-shoulder with our allies and key partners once again.”

Has such extraordinarily misplaced self-assurance, such vainglorious delusion ever been so swiftly mocked by reality?

Just a month before Chinooks ferried the last U.S. diplomats from the Kabul embassy to the airport, Mr. Biden was telling us there would be no Saigon-like helicopter-on-the roofs moment as America withdrew. Shortly before Kabul fell in a weekend, Mr. Blinken told lawmakers that any deterioration wouldn’t happen from a “Friday to a Monday.”

The story of Afghanistan is a longer tale of repeated misplaced confidence, a story of belief overwhelming judgment again and again. Yes, the Trump administration’s deal with the Taliban was part of that; and no, Mr. Biden’s catastrophic execution doesn’t necessarily mean the decision to disengage was wrong.

But as the Biden geniuses pick through the wreckage of what they have achieved, they—and all of us—should remember with trepidation this lesson from history: It’s not only the gods who punish arrogance and vanity.


Link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-vainglory-humiliation-afghanistan-withdrawal-evacuation-taliban-kabul-crisis-11630346559?mod=opinion_lead_pos10

what his motives might be.

As to what he wrote...heaping 21 years of misguided nation building on a seven month ofd administration that has tried very hard to get not only our military and civilians out of there, but over 120,000 Afghanis as well, seems a bit much to me.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Baker

Don't peddle your shit here, Tyrone.

whether he's someone to be trusted...I certainly don't.

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Banging on someone for not knowing something and then openly demonstrating they themselves have no idea what they're talking about! The Roommate never fails to disappoint. What a meatball...

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Americans who want to do so are out).

Link: https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donaldtrump-socialmedia-supremecourt-tech/2021/08/30/id/1034389/

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Kind of the Gruber-Obama approach...rely on the stupidity of the Left.

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