But hey, I am truly sorry that your child was blown up because I'm incompetent, but did you know my son died from cancer? It's basically the same thing, so I feel your pain.
Can you kindly provide a link to your posts between February 2020 — August 2021, urging an expeditious vetting and processing of Afghan nationals requiring Visa permits, and further sounding the alarm to expedite our withdrawal before the Taliban seized control of Afghanistan.
Reverse planning is a result oriented proposition. When things go south (as happened here), it is easy to blame the planning and intelligence.
Bottom line is that Biden did not kick the can down the road. It was a clusterfuck. No doubt. But, not sure an exit from Afghanistan wouldn’t be chaotic.
Link: A brutally honest account of Afghanistan. By an Adult.
Regarding the calls for VISA’s, that is a managerial issue that the public was not made aware of, but which a POTUS and admin should certainly be.
You may not criticize a colossal, humiliating and entirely avoidable presidential foreign policy debacle until you can provide proof of criticism of a previous administration related to the same foreign policy issue.
...to set the 8/31 deadline for its PR value? Slipped his mind on July 8th when he was assuring us how well this would go and that it wouldn't be another Saigon?
Where were the posters on July 8th to say that Biden was misspeaking? That chaos was the only possible outcome? Everyone seems to know that now...but refrained from posting about it then...
Biden stopped kicking the can on 8/31...but between July 8th and August 31st , he drove over it and left it flattened in the road.
The withdrawal was handled disastrously and dishonestly. We'll yet see what the consequences of that really are...
Link: CNN on Biden’s Afghanistan Nightmare: ‘If This Isn’t Failure, What Does Failure Look Like?’
and no expediting of SIV’s for “terrorists”? He did the draw down after he lost the election knowing the country didn’t want more troops put in. He set up the whole shitshow and Biden blindly executed it.
date...but he changed to 8/31 so he could grandstand with it on 9/11. (On a side note, I have grave concerns about this given the way the withdrawal played out and who is left in Afghanistan.).
Biden could also have introduced troops necessary to do this more securely but likely did not like the optics of that.
Both Trump and Biden saw that 70 -75% of people supported withdrawal and wanted to play it to political advantage.
I have never excused Trump but Biden oversaw the actual withdrawal. After the fact, he talked about knowing possible outcomes that transpired. If so, he should have been honest beforehand. He didn't come close.
I disliked Trump but I said that following him with Biden would not be a good thing. Thus far, it is worse than I had thought it would be...
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8/31 was set for political reasons.
President Biden’s proclamations in July have clearly been shattered, as he miscalculated how quickly the Afghan Government would collapse.
But given that we now know how fragile the Afghan military/government tuned out to be (even after 20 years of US support), an extended exit would have resulted in similar chaos. Should we have slowly and quietly started the withdrawal and movement of Afghans beginning in March 2020? In retrospect, yes.
Should we have done so with a reinforced US military presence? Yes.
But, keep in mind that the Afghans themselves and US citizens living there likewise felt no sense of urgency to leave.
defense that the general public should have known the SIV status of Afghanis is not correct. The President knew, or should have known the SIV status of our Afghani partners and can't then set dates and make proclamations that we'll have them all out by 8/31.
We apparently got 8500 out...
real start of the collapse.
The mechanics and service crew for the planes was withdrawn first. The pilots could no longer safely take their planes up. The Taliban moved fast when the Afghani army’s best advantage was neutralized. That neutralization was the result of Biden admins inexplicable poor planning also. This mistake occurred in the early summer, and coincides exactly with the breathtaking collapse.
It’s all Biden’s fault. That simple (minded).
It’s like saying all of the intelligence failures that led to 9/11 were Dubya’s fault when we know that many happened under his predecessor.
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Look it up if you don’t believe me.
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jackoff on the board award. Questy got game
If he could, he would. He can’t!
The man has a dementia that gets worse every day.
There is zero evidence to refute this sad reality.
is true.
The evidence for Biden's dementia is overwhelming, except for those who are blindly partisan.
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Feckin hypocrites.
Feckin' obsessed idiot.
Whatever came before doesn't mean Biden isn't doing a shit job of things.
I said it of Trump when I thought so. Because you want to have blinders on doesn't make me a hypocrite....
Any fair minded analysis looks at everything that happened to cause the problem. Biden’s sin which is his responsibility is that he doubled down on the high tail it out as fast as possible policy, no real plan for the consequences set in place at Doha. No one took into account that that the army and govt could immediately collapse. If that was foreseen, why did Trump draw down and leave Biden with 2,500 troops there? Following through on that and doubling down is clearly on Joe. I’m just tired of hearing those that supported that policy, raised no objection to it, are now on their horse over its failure. If that isn’t you, then fine. But the constant refrain of endless wars, we need to get out ASAP that the right ran on in the fall has now been replaced by look what happens when you do it this fast without proper planning, we abandoned our allies who by the way are terrorists that we don’t want over here, and we bear no responsibility for that. Complete BS. They supported it until it went to shit and they could blame their opponent.
Biden's prior position as VP for 8 years and as a Senator who supported the war in Afghanistan.
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Please go back and point out all the love I gave to Trump.
Criticism of Biden seems to provoke this knee-jerk reaction in the weak-minded.
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...fear the press. His advisers fear when he's gonna ramble, stumble, get snarky, etc. because he's...79 years old...
It doesn't take "dementia" for him to not be up to the task...and he's not...
Are you just playing semantics here? I don’t know what differentiates an address from a speech from a press conference, but this is an extraordinary circumstance and people want answers. This wasn’t some Jimmy Carter fireside chat.
Lobbing bombs as he so callously did, and then running away, makes him appear even more detached and feckless.
Important moments are not usually cheapened but questions.
When Obama announced the Osama was dead, he took no questions. When Trump made remarks after the election he took no questions.
You guys are acting like this is crazy or cowardly.
It’s not.
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Are you on the spectrum? Seriously, nobody would call that somber. It's his third address on this topic in like ten days. That tells us all we need to know about how much he has fucked it up. Our nation is in the hands of an incompetent imbecile.
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That's what Captain Applesauce called the Withdrawal today in his address.
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a republican president in 2024. Perhaps some embarrassment on the national stage is alright.
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Link: The war is over
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War is over. Everyone should be pleased with that.
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us where I never said I didn't give a shit about Afghanistan. You can't
As well as a host of other nutters given this humiliation. Why wouldn't you test this administration?
or withdrawals...or questions about withdrawals...
Was screwing something up
8 years
Trying to brazen it out as if the rout was not a total shitshow. Will be interesting to see how the world takes that.
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lying mofo.
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The only thing keeping him in office is Kamala Harris.