Brietbart/Coulter seem to imply he will need to deport a whole lot of people.
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The fish and bread loaves are next.
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As long as Trump distracts them with Making America Greatness, they'll be with him.
Personally, I think Trump has to do good things fast. The "base" is really small, everyone else who voted for him expect change right away.
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I read an interview shortly after the election with a women from coal country - western PA, eastern OH or someplace like that. I was shocked to hear her say that she was going to give him 3-6 months to show progress in bringing back coal jobs before she would get angry. If he didn't in 4 years she would not vote for him again. I was shocked until I realized these people's hopes and dreams for Trump are not based in reality so why should their timing expectations be. I left just feeling sad for her.
For guys like LT, Hank and Baron, they won't care. They just want anyone under the Republican label.
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That should will let them know that he too blames them for all our country's problems even if he does nothing about it. Should be enough to retain the xenophobic vote.
That's his base.
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I've been curious about that point since the start.
Obama has deported about 400K a year. So he'll get to 3 million on his own.
I mean, that's what he promised his base.
I think we're going to see some immaterial increase in the budgets of ICE and Border Control and a slight increase to the pace at which criminals and people caught at the border are sent back. Trump will claim victory and his supporters will be happy because they don't know the pace at which people have been deported over the past 8 years.
They were promised more than token action.
Honestly, I think we're more likely to see the Feds contract out border patrol to Trump Security International Inc. than we are going to see a wall and 3M deported.
The cabinet of the guy running against the elite and special interests.
The base doesn't care as long as they think he keeps talking about MAGA.
You just can't figure this out, can you? This is fun to watch.
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orgasm from power or from money? I'll take the latter, because I'm guessing I'll at least share in their gains.
2) That has nothing to do with my post. My post had to do with how Trump framed his campaign and his potential Presidency.
But I'll change the topic with you and play along. Are you in the .01%? How about the .1%? 1%? Otherwise they, including Trump, don't give a shit about you.
that care about me tend to believe they are better at making my decisions. Those that care about me tend to always care more about someone else, so I get the shaft. Those that care about me tend to relish in picking the winners and the losers.
Re: the body of your post, I honestly can't follow what you meant.
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There's a common sense immigration policy somewhere in the middle between wide open borders and the wall. And sorry for the folks that want retribution (cause they've been personally wronged, right?), but this common sense solution includes amnesty for the illegals who are otherwise lawful and productive members of society. And for the other crowd, it also includes border security, deportations, intelligent vetting and incentivized assimilation. The embrace multi-cultural bullshit is nearly as bad as the anti-immigration nationalist populism bullshit, neither of which serve the people they claim to nor are either going to "make America great again".
If not... things might get seriously ugly.
If we do nothing, our condition will continue to get worse.
Everything I read seems to be either "it's the Mexicans fault" or "It's technologies fault". Then I come here and read about how we might devolve into a feudal system, as if we aren't already pretty much there.
People (blacks, mexicans, white rural folk) lack class mobility opportunities which were once one of the things that separated the USA from most areas of the world.
One thing (maybe the only thing) that inspires optimism for me about a Trump presidency is that he may be un-Washington enough to actually try to do big things, which I think is necessary to reverse course. Of course this could blow up in our collective faces if he does the wrong thing. Is that better than death by a thousand cuts? I guess it depends.
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I've never understood this type of thinking. You want to reward millions of people for breaking the law. Meanwhile, countless millions wait their turn to enter the United States legally. Giving illegal amnesty is a tremendous slap in the face to them, not to mention we continue to give wrongdoers incentive to do wrong.
I'm not in favor of wholesale deportations except for the criminal element, but I say let these people continue to twist in the wind, mandate e-verify for all employers, and instead of a physical border wall, I'd like to see a wall of border patrol agents.
I'm not un-empathetic to the plight of illegal immigrants; it could easily have been any one of us through an accident of birth. But the United States can't rescue all people.
I actually think that would sell in the immigrant community also
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The last thing people want to lose is their sense of identity. If things were well back where ever they came from... they would return in a heart beat.
But which scenario do you want to promote?
And their offspring are far more likely to embrace "our" culture than their parent's when they grow up and go to school here. This is what we should want and people should see and treat others as Americans, not African-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Gay-Americans, whatever. The onus to assimilate and integrate isn't only on the immigrant or minority.
because it is so easy to stay in touch with and travel back to the homeland.
My czech great grandmother came over here with her two sisters when they were teenagers. She didn't ever learn the language and sent letters and pictures back "home". But, she didn't have to assimilate, everyone else either spoke her language or interpreted for her.
I think much of it happens organically with the next generation, but I think we waste a lot of time trying to be multi-culturally friendly.
There's no line for people who don't have very close family connections, an employer request or politically favorable refugee status. This is the great myth purported by the right, that there's a line and the people coming here illegally are line cutters. The line doesn't exist for most and where it does they'll perish waiting (ever read Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath?).
The vast majority of people who have come here illegally saw no other reasonable choice. They aren't here to displace "legal mexicans who stood in line" and take their job picking tomatoes for 12 hours a day for meager wages in the summer heat. I mean, they could have joined the cartel as a mule or something, but other than that they lacked opportunities in their native country. The opportunities here aren't that great either, but far better than where they came from. Let that sink in.
If you're a religious person, what's the Christian thing to do? If not, what's the Human thing to do?
My understanding is that you can emigrate there if you have vital skills (engineering, etc) or lots of money to invest. Interestingly, you also must speak English competently.
That could be adjusted here, perhaps. Maybe include a service component. If a member of the immediate family serves in armed forces, or Teachamerica or something similar, the family may stay and become citizens. One could also easily argue that agricultural skills (ie picking tomatoes in the hot sun) are vital here - let people with those skills start the process of at least becoming legal residents.
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You're trying to prevent neo-feudalism, right?
Take the guy who will pick strawberries but not the one will end up in Donald Trump Jr's cabinet.
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to deport criminals. Make the border more secure. Stop the wave of Muslim immigration. His supporters know that he can't do much more than that.