Fauci is a liar. Remember when he lied and then told Paul, "Frankly sir, you do not know what you are talking about". Who on Earth would have reason to trust this administration...other than China?
The money went through an intermediary named "Ecohealth" which Paul specifically asked Fauci about. It was supposedly used on other bad viruses they are concocting, but no evidence it was used in development of COVID....of course the Chinese won't allow investigators in to evaluate the origins of COVID ......nothing to hide here.
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nih-acknowledges-us-funded-gain-of-function-wuhan-lab-despite-faucis-denials
for funding gain of function research (in China no less) that as far as I can tell has zero beneficial use.
The world is upside down that he still has a job.
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them. Zealots are not rational.
previously posted...not sure you read this before, but the key statement is at the end..."But Esvelt said “the work reported in this specific paper definitely did NOT lead to the creation of SARS-CoV-2,” because of differences between the virus studied and SARS-CoV-2."...another statement is also worth noting..."“This was not intentional gain of function,”
Here's the rest of the excerpt...
"Alina Chan, a molecular biologist and postdoctoral researcher at the Broad Institute of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard, said in a lengthy Twitter thread that the Wuhan subgrant wouldn’t fall under the gain-of-function moratorium because the definition didn’t include testing on naturally occurring viruses “unless the tests are reasonably anticipated to increase transmissibility and/or pathogenicity.” She said the moratorium had “no teeth.” But the EcoHealth/Wuhan grant “was testing naturally occurring SARS viruses, without a reasonable expectation that the tests would increase transmissibility or pathogenicity. Therefore, it is reasonable that they would have been excluded from the moratorium.”
Chan, who has published research about the possibility of an accidental lab leak of the virus, also said: “But we need to separate this fight about whether a particular project is GOF vs whether it has risk of lab accident + causing an outbreak.”
The University of Iowa’s Perlman told us the EcoHealth research is trying to see if these viruses can infect human cells and what about the spike protein on the virus determines that. (The spike protein is what the coronavirus uses to enter cells.) The NIH, he said, wouldn’t give money to anybody to do gain-of-function research “per se … especially in China,” and he didn’t think there was anything in the EcoHealth grant description that would be gain of function. But he said there’s a lot of nuance to this discussion.
“This was not intentional gain of function,” Perlman said, adding that in this type of research “these viruses are almost always attenuated,” meaning weakened. The gain of function would be what comes out of the research “unintentionally,” but the initial goal of the project is what you would want to look at: can these viruses infect people, how likely would they be to mutate in order to do that, and “let’s get a catalog of these viruses out there.”
Perlman also said that making a virus that could infect human cells in a lab doesn’t mean the virus is more infectious for humans. Viruses adapt to the cell culture, he said, and may grow well in a cell culture but then, for instance, not actually infect mice very well.
Back in February, MIT biologist Kevin Esvelt told PolitiFact.com that a 2017 paper published with the help of the EcoHealth grant involved, as PolitiFact described it, “certain techniques that … seemed to meet the definition of gain-of-function research.” But Esvelt said “the work reported in this specific paper definitely did NOT lead to the creation of SARS-CoV-2,” because of differences between the virus studied and SARS-CoV-2."
This is an esoteric arena, but Dr. Fauci has already been scrutinized by several other scientists...including his most ardent GOF opponents...not one has stepped up and called him a liar....they just continually voice their concern regarding this admittedly risky line of work...that 'could' lead to accidents and releases of potent viral strains.
FOX is dealing in innuendo only.
……Fauci is trying to use a different definition for GOF. He changed his dept definition of the process to mean that if you don’t know for sure that your experiment will result in a worse virus (ex combining MERS with a bat virus), then you don’t have to call it a Gain of Function experiment. Fauci is tryin to claim that if it was an accident, the. It isn’t Gain of Function….and he is being as obfuscatory as possible because he knows his lie. That’s why you can’t understand it.
The NIH leaders themselves backed away from Fauci’s lies because of the penalties for lying to Congress.
You will never admit that you are wrong….it’s part of your liberal nature. But you are wrong and we all know it.
Fauci is even more corrupt than he is incompetent, and regardless of what you convince yourself of in his regard, nobody else trusts this guy outside of the religious liberal zealots with the rainbow colored yard signs.
The NIH funding was NOT for 'Gain of Function' research that would enhance either 'transmissibility' or 'lethality' of bat viruses to humans, so unless you have peer-reviewed, evidence-based data to refute Dr. Fauci or the NIH, you need to stop with your CONJECTURE.
Furthermore, it has become quite clear that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) COULD NOT have been created as a result of the research that was funded by the NIH...so FULL STOP on that baseless accusation.
The only complaint you have in all of this is that "EcoHealth" failed to follow NIH guidelines in their reporting of research results...go write them a letter if you're so outraged.
Link: https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/statement-misinformation-about-sars-cov-2-origins
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when there was money given by the US to manipulate viruses to a military viral lab in China that released COVID. If Fauci didn’t fund COVID itself (unknown), he did assist them in other efforts and lied about it since Rand Paul asked him according to his own definitions and he still denied it and told Paul that he didn’t understand what he was talking about.
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funding with 'malice of forethought' is pure garbage...in your own words..."WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE"...nonetheless, you call Dr. Fauci a liar for asserting what you just admit...how do you rationalize this to yourself?...is "PERSONAL CONJECTURE" your only criteria for calling someone a LIAR?...guess so, since you throw that word around constantly and never seem to be able to back it up.
That is what this is about...Fauci's lies. Because China will not let us investigate, we will likely never have evidence of which GoF research it actually supported, though it certainly could have been for the development of COVID. But the unavoidable point for everyone to wonder is, wtf is this $ going to Chinese viral labs for in the first place? And why do you give Fauci pass for lying to congress?
Dr. Fauci did not lie...you and Sen. Rand Paul, however, are imputing a lie...as evidenced by your statement "We Have No Evidence".