cities that burn? I can see certain groups acting out again and using this an excuse to cause more damage. It will surely be met with cheering and support from the Dems in Washington.
I'm not sure if the judge is going to declare a mistrial but I don't see how anyone can find this kid guilty. I hope he gets off and then sues the media and even the President, much the same way Nick Sandman handled his business. These talking heads are truly disgusting.
Rittenhouse was there because the Mayor and police refused to do their jobs to protect law-abiding citizens and their property. Maybe if they had just done their jobs this would have never have happened.
Again, I feel bad for the fat dork. But he killed people.
And if he gets off, it will encourage other fat Trump morons to deputize themselves take their guns to protests.
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Some blame the kid, no matter how misguided, trying to protect and preserve. Others blame the kid seeking to harm and destroy.
Telling.
When the elected authorities choose to withdraw the police, civilians should be able step into the void created by the authorities.
to get off because the left leaning media and even the President jumped on this to try to score some political points. Now all they do is look foolish, if that is possible. Again, I hope he drags them through the courts. It won't make a difference because these idiots didn't learn from Sandman and they won't learn from this.
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handled this riot, regular people wouldn't be needed. But the left made sure to demonize law enforcement and many here supported that movement.
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Granted, we shouldn't support either one, but that is not where our country is right now.
were destroying businesses of hard working people for no reason. They threatened this kid, chased and would have killed him and we have people excusing them for their behavior just because they think he is a Trumpie?
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In that situation no one would have felt s need to become a vigilante.
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A quick Google search leads us to Wisconsin statute 939.48 which reads:
"A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself."
So it appears that deadly force is justified in Wisconsin when the shooter "reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself." I imagine the jury instructions in Rittenhouse will track the statute.
Shockingly, Wisconsin law does not allow deadly force against sex offenders, or looters, or when "the Mayor and police refuse to do their jobs."
argue against a stawman. I said that Rittenhouse had every right to be there with an AR-15.
From there, he was clearly acting in self-defense, and you have to be a political partisan to say otherwise.
Yet, you applaud Tampa's Wild Wild West justifications for deadly force?
Got it.
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You would be posting to defend him...not because he would be black, but because your party could then use him (instead of the rioters) for political gain. Maintaining sufficient racial division is key to your party's hold on power.
Here is what I do know:
Two black men beefing over a girl or a social media post or turf. Showdown. Both pull guns. One dies. One lives.
How does "self defense" play with Ned and Tampa on the jury in that homicide case?
National story? All you 2nd Amendment stewards going to bat for the shooter?
Get real, Ned .... for once in your life.
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That will be the message if he is cleared.
If he is convicted, it says, “We can do anything we want. We can force ourselves on others”.
Most of the rioters are mentally disturbed.
Even the most rabid posters here would never participate in these collective psychosis events.
But by and large no one cares because the victims aren't black. If they were BLM and the rest of the community would lose their collective shit. No they have for the most part completed their "mission". They won't care about a few white "allies" that got laid out...
the pretense of keeping the peace and protecting the towns people. By doing so he antagonized the protesters and created a deadly circumstance - he created a confrontation with protesters where he killed two and injured another.
Sadly he was inspired by the US president, media and hate groups to prepare himself for this event. Even more egregious were the law officers allowing him and others to show up at this volatile event with weapons.
Two dead, one injured and a 17 year old youths life ruined and your cheering for more damage.
For you, each July fourth must be a complete let down.
told them that he "would fucking kill them if he saw them again". Another rioter admitted to pointing a gun at his head first. You're good with that though?
Stop calling this a protest, this was a riot and they were demolishing businesses for pure enjoyment. You guys seem to be ok with that part of this whole scenario. I'm not calling for more damage, I'm calling for idiots who branded this kid a terrorist and a white supremacist to pay for what they said, including our dumbass President.
and the gullible go out and finish the job for you.
You’re the cheering section this country doesn’t need.
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this kid was there to protect? I'm sure you will call them "peaceful protests", amirite? Also, should the media have jumped on this kid without the full story and all the details? How about Joe calling him a white supremacist during his campaign? You good with all of that?
protests, we finally agree that the 1/6 insurrectionists should see much jail time.
activity.
Do you agree? That's not what was happening to the rioters during the "summer of love." (I'm not talking about the peaceful protesters, just like I assume you are not talking about the 1/6 peaceful protesters.)
you and your brethren here think protesting something you don't believe in or back is a riot and is criminal. Like BLM. They're
protesting a cause and you think they're criminals - even animals as many of you have called them. You've got your head so
far up your own asses you can't discern what's what anymore. You jam your politics onto others claiming a sense of righteousness
only you are allowed to have. Sure protesters are wrong when they destroy, but as a protesting body, they have a cause - all you have
is being anti whatever their cause is. As Cheerleaders you insight dumb-fucks like Rittenhouse, who thinks he's from Middle Earth,
now champing at the bit for some action led falsely by you, POTUS and other jag-off GOP members - shows up to a protest he has
no call for, loaded with false impressions and creates mayhem. Yeah, it sure was self-defense.
How about you bring in abortion as your righteous cause.
Stop calling these asshole protesters. They weren't and the businesses they ruined prove that.
I know it's hard for you to stay on point and not deflect but you have to at least try.
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Based upon your posts in this thread, fair to say you agree that the US Capitol Police would have been perfectly justified in going full rock 'n roll on the January 6th rioters/insurrectionists?
In your America, best that we allow citizens to be armed and dangerous, and "cleared hot" to shoot to kill when they see criminality afoot, to include shooting folks engaged in property damage or any form of unrest?
the questions that were asked of you below. This kid was threatened by the child molester and then had a gun pointed at his head by the guy he shot. You won't admit to knowing that because it goes against the narrative that you were fed by your news sources.
You have articulated that one's sex offender status is a justifiable basis for using deadly force, correct? And I gather that in your Wild Wild West America, it wouldn't even matter if the shooter was unaware if the victim is a sex offender, correct?
Your bottom line is that a shooting victim's criminal record determines whether deadly force is justified, correct?
You have also suggested that Mr. Rittenhouse was justified using deadly force upon "the trash that was rioting and doing damage to businesses." So, we are trying to ascertain your parameters about the justification of deadly force when people are engaged in looting or property damage. Who decides who are "trash?" The shooter?
Do you at least differentiate between the property owner using deadly force vs a community watchdog?
Continue to dig yourself a deeper hole.
A hole. I just like seeing karma come back to bite these assholes in the ass. I have no issue with deadly force when riots occur. You on the other hand have no issue with riots or looting. I guess they build your client base. Now, you can circle back to 1/6 and try to make this about that day and not about Rittenhouse getting off for self defense.
for killing people we're commenting on that justification.
this kid is innocent as hell.
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him to stay down right? Don't point a gun at someone unless you plan on using it, just ask Alec Baldwin.
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The dead had families too.
ability to see what happened. He was chased while running away, had a gun pointed at him after he fell, warnings that he was going to be killed and shot the assholes in self defense. A liberal or conservative with logical sense would have reacted the same way. As far as going there, just like everyone has a right to protest, everyone has a right to protect their or others' property during that protest. That was his motive, not to kill or injure people.
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dead, all criminals have families.
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…….btw, you just described Alec Baldwin.
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be punished under vigilante statutes, but not murder. I think those who died &were shot were the ones attempting murder.
I think that the guy who lost his bicep ought to face criminal charges.
also had a gun (illegally) and had it pointed at this kids head. You good with that or only have issues with Rittenhouse because he is a Republican?
If you shoot people with that gun, you are a criminal asshole.
I feel bad for the little fat stooge. But he killed people.
but it afforded me to talk to him. He assured me that he only goes to peaceful where the are no guns. so they know in advance if their will be guns or not through social media
he assured me that he didn't want it for the protest
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Messed up arm because of those actions. The guy who brought the gun isn’t dead. Kyle didn’t get the hat trick. If Rittenhouse didn’t fire, he would be dead now. I’m sure you would be treating that rioter as a hero for killing him.
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We hope the young man is afforded a fair trial.
We hope the jury holds the State of Wisconsin to their demanding burden of proof. The US Constitution requires so.
Two people died. A 17 year old boy who had no business/experience being armed with a deadly weapon, was walking around the streets with a semi automatic rifle, apparently responding to President Trump's cries for "law 'n order." That in itself should trouble us.
I have not followed the trial. Watched 10 minutes of cross examination yesterday. Not all that impressed.
But judging from the threads, I gather posters like you will celebrate a Not Guilty verdict, akin to what many did when OJ was acquitted (albeit not a self defense case).
Verdicts are the province of the jury. Folks who take to the streets to condemn or celebrate verdicts diminish all of us.
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for slandering him. I see you mentioned nothing about the trash that was rioting and doing damage to businesses. I think you were ok with that and even considered looting to be ok. If the Police were allowed to do their jobs and not have their hands tied, people would not have to take matters into their own hands. Yes, 2 people are dead but all he did was rid this world of scumbags. One was a convicted child molester. I have no remorse for either.
And a white supremacist who executed 2 people who were peacefully demonstrating for equality?
NYC mayor elect Adams doesn't seem likely to tolerate their acting out.
to do his job. It's going to be interesting to see how he reacts to the threat of "bloodshed" if he gets heavy handed on the criminals.
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