Let’s assume for a minute that all these accusers are telling the truth.
On one end of the spectrum is Bill Cosby. Serial rapist. Dozens of women.
Next come the rapists and pedos. Clinton, Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Spacey.
Next, the harrassers, who used power over women to be pigs. O’Reilly, Halperin, those other producers, the untold number of House members. Etc.
Then there’s Louis CK, who used his fame and power to lord it over women. And it’s just weird.
On the other end is Al Franken. Forced one kiss. Posed for one inexcusable photo. If no other women come forward, this that’s the far other end.
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At times like this, a POTUS can draw on his moral standing and give a speech in which he can soothe the troubled waters and coax the media to cool it and help bring partisans back to Earth.
Now that Trump is the exemplar of American values, he needs to ascend his bully pulpit, and draw on his vast reservoir of moral authority to calm an over-stimulated populace.
And should be tossed from the senate.
I think the wounds of sexual harrassment can finally heal.
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I imagine if all of our adult lives were filmed ala "The Truman Show," we would have at least one interaction/comment re a female, that we regret, or at least acknowledge was not our finest hour.
On the other end is rape -- a serious criminal offense. Next is unlawful sexual contact -- a criminal offense, but less serious and often misdemeanor level conduct.
Next is sexual harassment, which can be "criminal," but is generally regarded as civil -- a tort.
There are many different forms of sexual harassment, and different levels of bad behavior, -- some isolated, some a solid pattern.
Separate from all of the above is ol' fashioned consensual sex -- sins of passion, but 100% consensual on both sides, -- our James Bond moments.
Facts matter. Context matters.
But, make no mistake that women have found the strength and power to call out bad behavior. All of this will protect the women of tomorrow. People should be treated w/ respect in all walks of life.
An Officer and a Gentleman. Liberal. Righteous. Heartbreaker. It is hard being me. I get it.
"Feeling guilty is lying to yourself." Oscar Wilde
You disgust me!
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I tell my daughter that you millennial women will be the ones that end this BS.
The Bill Clintons and Donald Trump’s won’t have their zippers open for bidness without consequences in the future.
it out of the blue.
He’s just so arrogant and thought it wouldn’t be reported because of his bona fides on women’s issues.
Putting Trump in with Weinstein and Spacey shows your extreme bias.
Putting Franken into the "one forced kiss" category is ridiculous also. First your rationalizing. Second you're creating a separate category of "not bad sexual harassment".
I think that it would be wise to remember that when a guy gets caught once, he has undoubtedly done it a lot.
If you push for Franken's removal, then i will push for Moore's removal. Otherwise, i will just assume that this is really all about politics.
Trump is accused of being a serial assaulter and rapist. Same as Clinton. You believe the women in one case, not the other, because you are a partisan hack. I tend to believe them all.
Franken is accused of one unwanted kiss and horribly tasteless photo prank.
If you don't see a difference, then I simply don't know what to tell you.
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This is all politics. We cared about this stuff, but you taught us that you lose when you do that. you circled the wagons. We expunged our bad actors while you defended yours.
Now you care after the guy is long out of office, his wife has lost, and conveniently, you want hillary out of your way now.
Care to explain that one, with a man accused by 16 (at last count) women of sexual assault sits in the glass White House, hurling stones?
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elected him President.
I also think it would be good for franken to step down.
So, see...I'm with ya all the way!
suspect. Thus, I am willing to reserve judgment given all of the political shenanigans that the Left has pulled in the past.
Franken cannot deny a picture. i'm sure he would have done so if the evidence didn't exist though.
I admit I take too much delight when guys like you and Roy Moore get ensnared in the web of your own phony rhetoric. It does not show my personality in its most favorable light, but, this is the UHND Open Board after all, so decorum be damned!
Moore made his political bones by presenting himself as the last line of defense for the Ten Commandments, and by wrapping himself in the flag. Turns out, he was forcing himself on young girls while he climbed the political ladder portraying himself as a moral exemplar. Now, nine accusers later, backed up by the word of his entire hometown, including ex-cops and mall personnel who remember him being banned...and you will withdraw your support "if acc's are true."
Next, you can lecture me about "consistency" and "hypocrisy," But please, don't make me laugh at you any harder than I'm laughing now.
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Moore is in a completely different class of creepiness.
Franken and Trump were celebrities that by their own admission used that celebrity to commit sexual assault of some stripe. We can debate whether serial pussy-grabbin' (and forced kisses) is better or worse than a forced kiss and a kevlar coated breast grabbin'. But they are somewhat similar (except in quantity).
What Moore did was completely unrelated to either.
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He is no Weinstein, but guys pawing like he does is not innocent. Of course, you consider Mike Pence to be a "freak" for being smart enough not to be put in a compromising setting, so i'm not sure how i could convince you of Biden behavior being inappropriate.
Btw, I love how you try to lump POTUS in with Clinton. It's a predictable talking point for liberals. A nitwitticism* if you will.
*Copyright implied. Definition: noun * nit-wit-it-cism A poorly thought out talking point of liberals.
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Obviously, the accusers hold all of the cards these days. But there is still the evidence and the admissions by the accused vs the denials.
Just be thankful you aren't afflicted in said manner.
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As well as the rape lawsuit from an underage girl who was ruined until she withdrew her case.
Trump is a dirtsac. Clinton the same. Weinstein, Spacey, Moore...ditto.
They’re the most despicable of all sexual predators.
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The Pentagon pulls out all the stops to shield this info from the unsuspecting public.
Link: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/18/child-sex-offenders-bulk-military-prisons-ap/
“Of the 1,233 inmates confined in the military’s prison network, 61 percent were convicted of sex crimes, according to the latest available data, obtained through the federal open records law. Children were the victims in over half of those cases.”
Not quite half, but still significant.
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