Ouch! what's going on with Cohen and Trump with Russia real estate Deal with Putin?
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I just wish we knew Trump was in international real estate before the election.
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Damn Ned, what's the upside to this?
There have to be about 5 billion people on this earth who deserve your loyal defense more than this guy.
Upside on what? Jim mentioned he was doing a real estate deal in Russia. Is that wrong?
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I just wish we knew Trump was in international money laundering before the election.
Oh wait. We did.
Just like HRC & WJC in that regard, which is why, even if true, it was a non-issue in the election.
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This is the genius of FNC and other whacko right wingers over the year.
They have made up enough about Clinton for long enough that you have a "what about Clinton?" response to literally everything Trump did, does or will do even though there is no evidence of Clinton actually doing it.
"No evidence" for the Clintons; Solid evidence for Trump. That is your genius. Changing standards.
Every time I take the standard you use for the Left, and apply it to the right, I get the "whataboutism" objection. Seeking consistency is deemed dishonest. That is true genius.
That's because it is all you do
You try to defend Trump with misplaced analogies. You love deflecting with the false, the irrelevant, and the false-and-irrelevant.
It's OK to say that it would be bad if Trump lied to federal investigators about pursuing a hotel in Moscow during the 2016 campaign. It really is! Try it!
I am not defending Trump. I am merely pointing out that your attacks are fake; you are like him.
If you guys made the same attacks on Lefties as you do with your opponents, then you would have the moral highground on this. But you don't, so you don't. That is all.
You just did it again.
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No. I'm just resigned to our leaders behaving badly. You are only resigned to Dems behaving badly.
I'm just pointing that out. I'm not saying he is behaving well. That would be defending him.
Please. All you do is defend and apologize for Trump.
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Mostly I point out how crazed you are, and you think I am defending Trump.
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Untrue. You defend him across the board not just in response to me.
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What's the nicest thing I've said about him?
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You are once again conflating concepts.
I’m not saying that you are complimentary of his personality.
I am saying that you constantly excuse and/or defend his bad behavior and conduct even when it’s indefensible.
Um, he's under investigation for money laundering.
How is that fake?
I wish they would investigate this collusion stuff instead.
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One and the same
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Oh. I thought the "collusion" was to steal the election.
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It was. You think it happens in vacuum? Goes together like bacon and eggs.
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Bacon and eggs do go together.
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So do collusion and conflicts of interest.
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Link the post where I say there is solid evidence on Trump please.
And I have stated multiple times that if there are things into which authorities should look on Clinton of their charity they should go for it. Trump could surely use the distraction. Why do you think there is none underway right now?
We can each condemn our side's POTUS after he is out of office. We both get to do that. Fair?
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Huh? I said that during the Clinton campaign.
Go for it. Have at it. Very easily done.
And she wasn't my candidate.
You are physically incapable of having an open mind about Trump.
I am equally open minded about the corruption on both sides.
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One difference.
Several people associated with one have been indicted, convicted or plead guilty.
No one associated with the other has.
That is indicative of prosecutorial discretion, and not indicative of guilt.
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That had me laughing, thank you.
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Indeed. Me too.
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I just wish we knew about him liking ho’s to pee on each other before the election.
Would explain the Stormy Daniels bareback thing.
Didn't we know that before the election?
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No.
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Oh well.
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You take apologist to its highest pinnacle. Congrats.
Let me know what company you work for so I can avoid any dealings.
Jim accused him of having real estate dealings in Russia. I acknowledged it. How is that apologist?
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Please. It is because you are attempting to divert from the claim that he lied about his dealings
with Russia in 2016 by citing to the general point that he is involved with international real estate.
Of course every knew that. What wasn’t known was that he was still trying to do a massive deal with them while running for prez in 2016. Also, the same time he’s accused of having colluded over the election.
Can you post the lie? I'd like to read it.
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I have no business dealings with Russia. Look it up.
He was negotiating into the middle of 2016 for a tower in Moscow.
Report is now of a $50 mill penthouse gift to Putie as part of the deal.
Yet you defend that. Sad and disgraceful.
Honest question: Are you criticizing Trump for doing a deal in Russia? Or, just for a gift to Putin?
I really have to take all of these reports with a grain of salt. They are usually BS. Just this week, we had reports that Manafort met with Assange, but we come to find out later, that it didn't happen, and the original source backed away from the story (while US news outlets were still repeating the story).
My 48 hour rule has turned into a two week rule. If the story doesn't hang around for 2 weeks, why should I bother paying attention? If it can't hang for 2 weeks, then it certainly can't unseat Trump.
It’s a huge conflict of interest to negotiate that type of deal while running for prez.
It puts him in a position of being financially beholden to one of our major foriegn policy foes.
He also lied, misled and tried to cover it up.
So yeah, that would be criticism. You think that’s okay. You are sad, and such a hack if you feel it is.
The fact that there was talk of it including such a gift to Putin is also disgusting.
Again, what would you say if it were the Clintons or Barry, whom you politically dislike doing that? The difference between you and me is I would be saying the same thing no matter who was doing that shit.
Why do you think that I think these things are ok? I wish our leaders didn't do them.
I would also hate it if, for example, Trump had a Trump Foundation that accepted millions from Russia while Trump was making decisions that affected the interests of Russian oligarchs, or accepted millions from Saudi Arabia, or if his wife went to Russia and accepted $750,000 speaking fees from people who were barred from coming to the US.
Is Trump's "conflict of interest" that you mention a crime?
You left out the China thing also Ned. Again the difference between us is that
I also railed about those things. I despise the Clintons and didn’t make excuses for them. You, on the other had criticized the same behavior in opponents that you excuse for those you support. There is a name for that.
C’mon Ned, you can do it, just say it is wrong.
The attached article has the quotes.
I didn't accuse him of having dealings, I simply posted he acknowledged he had dealings in Russia.
The issue is, what were and are those dealings. And why now, is he finally saying he has and had business interests in Russia/wth Putin when he had been denying these interests and dealings for over 2 years? Sonny Trump had already stated, at length Russia money has been flowing into the Trump Org for years and is a major source of their financial dealings. How is it now Donny Bullshit is going with, I had business dealings with Russians/Putin after all the denials?
you get it wrong in a very consistent way.
What was illegal? Does any of this have to do with collusion?
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It makes it much more likely. Who would the Russians want to help, remember your question?
It’s obvious why and who they would want to elect. Also, obvious who would be beholden to them.
The contacts were also already there, Manafort, Cohen, Sater, Little Orange, Big Orange.
It was also hidden from the public. You think it wouldn’t have been extremely damaging to disclose that almost up to the time of the convention, Orange was negotiating to build a tower in Moscow? Now reports that part of the proposed deal included a $50 mill penthouse for Putie?
Of course none of this bothers people like you which is so sad.
What would you say if that was the Clintons or Barry?
If the Russians are smart (and they are), they would be donating to both parties, like Trump did.
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Oh please. They hated Clinton and gave her no help.
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You are the best.
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Oh, that's how you want to play this. Genius.
Good thing your Trump U degree will keep you happy.
All I'm saying is I wish I knew Trump was in real estate. Apparently you didn't know that either.
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