immigration solution is going to have long lasting negative consequences to this nation.
From the demagogue in chief to the open border crazies, no one has the cojones and political will
to make the difficult compromises to fix this.
DACA for border security was a least a start. Thanks hardliners.
Link: https://www.vox.com/2018/12/27/18157515/immigrant-families-detention-border-children-deaths-ice
Are there really open border crazies, or is that just a boogeyman created by a snake-oil salesman?
I know we have millions of illegals here and that border security wasn’t significantly strengthened under Barry. The fact that we have less millions every year for economic or demographic reasons doesn’t change the fact that millions are still trying to illegally enter. It also doesn’t mean that we have better border security.
We need to deal with 3 facts which we won’t. We have millions of law abiding people here who need to have something done to regularize their status. We have a long, relatively porous border that needs to be strengthened. We have a migrant, refugee crisis from Central America that is becoming a humanitarian nightmare. Ignoring it or saying it was on the down slide under Barry doesn’t cut it. There have been a-number of bipartisan, common sense solutions that the politicians lack the will to pass. It’s now the demagogue issue de jour.
Did I say that border security was significantly strengthened under Obama?
Did I suggest ignoring immigration reform?
Did I suggest that "saying it was on the down slide under Barry" would "cut it"?
I am trying to figure out if there is really a significant faction of "open border crazies", since the evidence strongly suggests that Obama was not (since illegal immigration decreased under his watch). It would be great to have immigration reform, and I know the parties are deadlocked. The leader of one party wants to end various modes of legal immigration as well as build a wall that most experts think is useless. I don't know what the open-border crazies want. Are they suggesting tearing down the existing barriers?
I think he would have signed the bipartisan bill that would have solved much of this. He deported lots of people in his 8 years.
I am talking about the people who want to do things like get rid of ICE. You know, like Ms. Ocasio Cortez?
P.S. Both Warren and Harris, two prominent D prez candidates have said the same thing. So did that slug senator from NY.
The Dems that have said we should abolish ICE are the ones who are standing in the way of immigration reform.
What is their actual proposal? ICE didn't exist until 2002. Are they suggesting going back to the system we had back then? Are they really advocating that we remove all barriers to entry at the Mexican border?
I said FROM the demagogue in chief to the open border crazies, no one has the courage to make the compromises necessary to fix the problem. That includes the spectrum, not just the trumpies or the open border crazies. Those in the middle don’t want to be primaried. Those on the extremes use the issue to their advantage with their base.
Is that hard to understand? And for two leading D prez candidates to advocate for abolishing ICE is an extreme position just like the border wall.
This is not, nor was it ever, a crisis.
Link: https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/apr/26/ron-kind/yes-experiencing-net-outflow-illegal-undocumented-/
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Immigration- absolutely nothing is being done to reduce the illegal border crossings, fix the catch and release issues, stop employers from hiring illegals, stop spending billions to house, feed and educate illegals or reduce the 4 year backlog of asylum seekers, 30 or so % of whom should not be here but are waiting for court dates.
No one in Washington with any influence cares that we are spending over a trillion $$ a year more than we take in in taxes even though tax receipts are at an all time high.
No one in power thinks it is a problem that we spend over $700 billion a year on military adventurism.
There are many more problems but it is a waste of time to enumerate them because the preponderance of voters are too greedy and stupid to care.