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these people to do something that is against their will. In fact, given that Biden's Mandate takes away their ability to pay bills, support their families, or buy food...it is an irresistable coercion.
Thus the Biden Admin has been trying to assault these people.
The court agreed. Good ruling.
For the libs here who pretend this is anything other than a chance to force your will on others, consider that not one of you would even consider replacing Fauci and Walenski as the face of the Biden Admin vaccination effort when neither are trusted by the population that needs to get vaccinated.
You won't even give it a try, but you will try to assault these people instead.
I strongly encourage all unvaccinated people without medical reasons that preclude a vaccination shot to get it. It's a BIG mistake not to get it. But I also strongly support your rights as Americans who live in a free country to not be forced into taking an injection that you refuse.
Suck it fascists.
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path. The Mandate is the first step down that path. Freedom MUST be preserved always. A governments tolerance of severe injustices always begin with toleration of smaller ones first.
"Overpopulation is threatening everyone".
"They will use up all of our healthcare resources"
"They are mostly from low income homes and will just grow up to be criminals and worsen the crime rate".
etc.
You can usually recognize the fascists by their selfish reasoning, and by the fact that they are trying to justify their actions.
pandemic...and since they are the ones overwhelming our shared health care system and causing Vaccinated citizens to forego needed treatments for other maladies, it is incumbent on government to mandate proven safe and effective vaccinations...a clear-headed SCOTUS did this 100 years ago when the threat was Smallpox.
Baron's creative fairy tales, notwithstanding.
The smallpox vaccine mandates were state, not federal.
The recent ETS struck down was a federal executive agency action. There are a few problems with the ETS. First, this is an area of law typically reserved by the states. Second, even if a federal law in this area is constitutional, none has been enacted. This was a pure end-a-round by the executive branch.
There is no inconsistency between the small pox decision and the OSHA ETS decision.
This current Supreme Court has let stand several state Covid mandates.
that's just an "Opinion".
How the prevailing decision makes for a healthier America is not at all clear.
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percentage of people that cannot do so need to be the ones taking precautions so the remainder 99% of the country can move on. I get it, the vaccine prevents severe illness in most cases... if people haven't gotten it by now, they are not going to. If you haven't figured that out yet, you are dense.
his 50's...cases are skyrocketing with many states having 'Positivity Rates' OVER 30%...(below 5% is where we need to be)...plus, now that Omicron accounts for 99% of cases, there were 1,893 COVID deaths in the U.S. in one day this week...do the math...that's more than a year's worth of Flu deaths in one month....and we still have nearly 40 million Unvaxed Americans running around.
I'd be truly dense if I paid no attention to these facts.
Link: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211224/first-omicron-death-in-u-s-was-reinfection
can transmit and get the Flu, I mean Omicron, why should anyone's life or the economy be put on hold for the unvaccinated?
a mandate makes perfect sense...it 'Forces' the Unvaxxed to do the right thing and thereby get us all back to normal ASAP.
For unknown reasons, Baron thinks we should stay with the 'status quo' and continue to over-burden our HC system, while at the same time making it harder for us to get to an "Endemic" condition.
Damn, Tyrone, it's like you're incapable of learning.
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Common question...answer is...
“What an endemic phase of a viral infections means is that it's not causing the terrible hospitalizations of the pandemic phase but that we'll have enough immunity of a population so it's kept down to low levels,” said Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease doctor at the University of California, San Francisco."
Oh, the care and feeding of fellow posters....
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It's far more likely that the term endemic means what almost all of the other scientists understand it to mean. That you are a bootlicker.
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Endemic means that you continue to test yourself 3x a week until you die. (normal people won't do this of course, but I'm talking about you)
Endemic means that, like influenza, it's never going away. Once it infects everyone and kills all of the vulnerable people, the yearly infections and yearly deaths fall to lower levels and maybe only kill around 36K people in the US per year, like the flu.
Endemic means that, like influenza, we'll have yearly boosters that always seem to be a step or two behind because, like influenza the mutations are unpredictable.
Endemic means that ten years from now, if you're still around, you'll still be posting here ad nauseum about getting booster shots. And this, most certainly, won't be a good thing.
Endemic means that we didn't defeat the virus, we just learned to live with it and it already killed off most of the vulnerable people.
Recent examples of pandemics that didn't end in endemic viruses: SARS-CoV-1 and Ebola.
Diseases eliminated by vaccines (NOT ENDEMIC): Smallpox, Polio, Measles, Mumps and Rubella.
The goal and hope has always been that the virus either disappears on it's own (SARS-CoV-1 and Ebola) or that it was eliminated by vaccinations/herd immunity (Smallpox, Polio, Measles, Mumps and Rubella). Endemic was never the goal nor the hope, but it's probably the sad reality. And endemic isn't good.
BTW, even before CoVid, I always asked (and continue to) three questions of anti-vaxxers I encounter in my travels:
Do you know why George Washington had wooden teeth? Answer: Smallpox.
Do you know why FDR was in a wheelchair? Answer: Polio.
Do you know why Smallpox and Polio are no longer around? Answer: Vaccines.
wish we could eradicate coronaviruses...maybe someday...until then, it's likely to be another yearly "Flu Shot" for the most vulnerable...just like the pre-pandemic era.
What could possibly make you believe I think having a persistent disease around was a "Good Thing"?
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and allows everyone to mix freely with others while not worrying whether they'll get sick or cause sickness....your turn.
been stating for well over a year, many people were counted as being ill because they tested positive for covid despite arriving at the hospital for other reasons.
One that saves lives? Does that include the increasing rates of suicide and depression among kids and others? Should we eliminate cars since people die in wrecks? Should alcohol be outlawed since it's among the most addictive drugs?
Mixing freely...come on fact man, even you cannot deny that vaccinated people are getting other vaccinated people sick. Covid is here; we need to learn to live with it. Lock downs are nonsense and mask mandates are overkill. If you feel like protecting yourself, wear a mask. That's your choice. That you want me to wear one, too, that's just over-the-top looney.
>COVID data on who's Vaxed or Unvaxed in our ICUs is by no means...at all...'skewed'...and I have that on first person authority (our family ICU Doc.)...and virtually every single person there, throughout the country is Unvaxxed...and the reason they ended up in those ICUs is because of COVID-induced problems...please rid yourself of that myth...you'll be the better for it.
>are there 1,890 suicides per day right now (i.e. 689K/yr)?...(hint: the actual average/year is slightly under 50K)...COVID is a WAY BIGGER problem than suicides...please don't come to the table with nonsensical arguments.
>Vaccinated people can contract and spread COVID...BUT...they don't go to the hospital...and certainly not to the ICU or morgue...Unvaccinated people do...please repeat that to yourself as many times as it takes to be remembered.
>There are no lockdowns going on...95% of Schools are open...all they have to do is follow a few simple guidelines...the vast majority are doing that....the only ones who are getting denied access are those who refuse to take a simple, free, safe vaccine...again, you spread myths...just stop the nonsense.
>I showed MarkHarmon a recent Stanford/Yale 'Random Controlled Trial' or "RCT" that involved 320,000 people using surgical masks...overwhelming evidence that masks WORK great...KN95s will do even better...you won't suffocate...wear the mask for yourself and others.
One more thing...make no bones about it...my ONLY goal with any comments related to COVID is to help you and others be as safe and healthy as you can be...believe it...and btw, I'm not in any way oblivious to the social and economic costs...I'm not immune to those effects any more than you are.
the only one out of 13 that showed masks to be effective. And since it was in Bangladesh, that study has no credibility. Besides, it only stopped one out of 9 infections from happening, even if they did work and assuming the study was legit.
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