I have no feelings about the 2nd Amendment, probably because no one in my family ever owned a gun. I do respect those who are enthusiasts, say for competition and hunting and maybe personal protection in really dangerous neighborhoods. But showing up at protests dressed in camouflage and wielding AK47s kinda concerns me.
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More and more states are enacting gun regulations and the 2A isn’t unfettered.
It would be good to get some guidance as to how far those regulations can extend.
Turn in your law license.
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Or, is your point that it is one thing to own an AR-15 in your home, and another to carry it exposed in a front sling at Walmart. If that is your point, I understand.
thing.
defined by the Founders I would interpret means equal defense to the government. Think of why this was the 2nd amendment.
But if you're actually trying to say - defense against a tyrannical gov't, I can't see you handling a nuclear weapon all that well.
Spoiler alert. No matter how many weapons you accumulate, you and this entire nation are not a match to the military power of it.
Your best bet to neutralize a gov't against abuse of power is to exercise your voting rights with great care.
If so, that is kind of weird. I don't think anyone thinks that nukes are in play in this discussion. The fact that you would mention them indicates you haven't thought much about this issue.
Seriously, do you think that is remotely a possibility? If so, why would you support giving government control over anything?
If you think that there is no way that a well regulated militia can keep a nuclear power from controlling the populace, then I guess I have to ask: Have you ever heard of a place called Vietnam? They won. All a militia has to do to win is deny control long enough. They do not have to defeat an armored brigade in combat on an open field of battle...they do not have to have nukes...they just have to deny control for long enough for the government to give up trying to be tyrannical. Militias don't need comparable arms, but they do need sufficient arms. I would suggest that a semi-automatic (not automatic) rifle is sufficient.
as the gov't so the people could fight against that tyrannical gov't.
Another spoiler alert - the gov't already has control over "anything" - militarily, everything and you know what, you gave them that control.
And just so you're clear, no matter how much you want to supply a militia with heavy armament, you could never have enough to either defend against the gov't (military)
and you could never win a war directly using weapons against the US military. There is nothing a militia could do to have sufficient arms at this point. To say that is just
as stupid as WCIF's comment.
And this talk about US becoming the tyrannical gov't to its people is just bullshit, so every time you or anyone talks about it, you're lying to yourself and any other person
you haphazardly say it to.
To distill the argument - You're full of shit.
The voting box is where you make a difference.
1) The soap box...freedom of speech.
2) The ballot box.
3) When those two fail to secure freedom, we have the jury box.
4) And when those 3 things fail to protect freedom...we have the final resort, the cartridge box...which we used in 1776.
Voting by itself is great. But, it didn't help the Jews. You can't kill 6 million armed Jews...but you can kill 6 million unarmed voting Jews.
And to think you're supposed to be one of the educated.
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As far as a "cult" I don't know what you mean. I'm hardly a cult follower of Trump, and the fact that you have to say that indicates to everyone that you have run out of intelligent responses. I've criticized Trump many times on here. He just doesn't suck as much as your candidates do.
Being a Gun enthusiast isn't a negative, it's the hoopla surrounding these overt displays of gun toting. Childish behavior with childish logic leads to stupid
situations. Regulations would be a good idea.
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I don't carry in public right now, but I have no problem with it at all. In fact, I think concealed carry is a great thing. It stops active shooters. I have a friend who conceal-carries every time he leaves the house. I like having him around. Makes me feel safer in public.
Now, walking in to a Walmart camo'd up with an AR-15 in a sling?...that person needs a mental evaluation and deserves to go to jail.
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But I had already assumed you to be a responsible gun owner.
Never got into the GI Joe shit though.
It's an honest question.
example is the militias.
Regulations would be universal background checks and better restrictions on those with mental health conditions getting weapons. I would also be open to some type of requirement to prove that the person knows how to Safely and properly use the weapon before buying it. Real radical shit ya know.
Shall Issue and Reciprocity come to mind.
Biden has been running gun control ads here in Iowa, not sure that's going to work out well for him.
against 2A.
Yet, I am still unsure why anyone needs a military style semi-automatic rifle. Fun to shoot, sure, but of very little practical value sans zombies.
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i.e. how many humans can you kill indiscriminately or by accident. There are more effective tools to kill a deer or defend your house.
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Except it's worse than that, they created a mass market where one didn't really exist prior. Almost no one had an AR or an AK or what not in '93, now seemingly everyone has one, except me.
Thank goodness the bayonet lug was banned. I honestly think they thought they were banning automatic weapons, and sat down to write the bill and were like, "Whaaat? They are already banned? What do we do now?"
These demonstrators’ viewpoints re the 2nd Amendment seemingly belong in the “unreasonable” bucket, albeit recognizing that their viewpoints, however unreasonable, are well protected under the 1st Amendment.
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racist. Weak sauce all the way around with a nasty streak.
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Governor Baby Killing Blackface was all in a panic over nothing.
"And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
It's pretty rich that the guy who said this issued a state of emergency over law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional rights.
The concern wasn’t people exercising their legit speech and assembly rights.
The concern was others such as those at Charlottesville on both sides of this issue doing a tad more than that.
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I agree with you that the 2nd A crowd as crazy as they can sometimes look in their camo and with their artillery are generally well behaved.
But some of the militia and Antifa groups that were planning to attend aren’t.
Antifa showing up in MAGA hats and starting all kind of shit. Thank god it went well today because I didn't want to see Americans killing each other in VA over Northam. I keep hearing different Sheriff's saying they will not enforce the law if it comes down. They are calling it Unconstitutional. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.