1. Trump wins popular and wins EC
2. Trump loses popular and wins EC
3. Biden wins popular and wins EC
4. Biden loses popular and wins EC
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I'm looking forward to Hillary, an Electoral College Delegate, ripping the EC system and calling for it to be abolished. Fun times ahead if you don't own any windows.
5. Trump loses popular vote and EC but stays in office after Supreme Court overturn the elections.
Trump wins both, but Biden refuses to concede.
I mean, you’ve seen pictures of rallies.
But, I don't know. It is just hard to believe that someone who doesn't campaign can beat someone who does...that someone who motivates people so much (not me, of course) that they will get in their cars and chase/escort his opponent's bus on the highway, that they go to a midnight rally with thousands of others during a pandemic...how can that guy lose to someone not even trying?
Sure, Trump can lose. He is an ass, after all. But, wow. To quote Biden, "This is a big fuckin' deal."
I think we will be lucky if we know who won before the Electoral College votes in December.
I don't think "campaigning" exclusively means rallies. I understand Biden's war chest is pretty big, and I suspect he has inundated the airwaves and cyberwaves. I don't know it for sure, but I don't think you are suggesting that Biden has not bought ad-time/space in Pa. So I don't think you have a basis to presume Biden isn't campaigning. He's just not holding a lot of rallies. While that is true, it's also quite possible that the average voter (who is not MAGA) finds the rallies during the epidemic to be a very poor choice. In that case, the rallies are actually hurting Trump, not helping. I tend to think more hate Trump than love him, and that his rallies have an equal and opposite effect on both groups.
Those are reasons explaining, in part, why someone not holding large outdoor rallies could beat someone holding multiple outdoor rallies.
The second are those who think holding mass gatherings of any type right now is bat shit nuts. Of course there is significant overlap between the two.
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again when he's most likely already loaded up with mj's and flat screens from last summer's peaceful shopping trips?
how many ya got, lehigh?
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If Biden does win it'll be in both the popular and EC.
I have previously said here that I expect Biden to win.
(I expected HRC to win in 2016 FWIW.)
Seems to be a growing consensus.
I think it will be bad if the entire country thinks 3, and 2 happens.
In my high school, Mr. Popular, football tailback and top academic and general big man on campus was running for president. Everyone, and I mean everyone said he was going to win, and he got crushed. It was crazy. No one knew what happened, except that everyone secretly voted for someone else. Obviously, the country is not high school, but if the polls really aren't counting the crazies who are going to these rallies, Trump could win, and then the Dems will challenge the vote, and it could get very ugly.
It is a bad thing that many Trump voters have been made to think that they do not have the freedom to speak openly about their political views.
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1) There are the crazies who go to the rallies.
They are a small minority.
2) Most Trump voters are like me, who don't own a hat, don't put a sign in the yard, don't fly the flag, and don't directly answer if asked how they vote in the office or in pleasant company, and certainly don't answer poll questions over the phone or online. This is the group that really wins the election.
And yet, I am very surprised that group #1 is so large and so motivated. It is amazing. They are what make me think I am wrong when I assume Biden will win.
With their masks on.
My favorites are the ones who drive alone in their cars with a mask on.
But like anything else with 375 million people it takes all kinds to make the country go round.