UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting

I live in Michigan and Macomb County is the heart of Trumpland here. It is traditionally a heavily unionized solid Dem district. They felt abandoned by the Democrat party and fell for Trump's anti-establishment rhetoric. They really have very little in common with the Republican establishment, who they see as spineless RINOs. The truth is that these Macomb County folks are the real Republicans in Name Only. Now they have no party at all. It is a little scary to imagine what this means. But they have now foresworn the Republican party.

(no message)

Let's not apply some standard of original sin to half the country because of the actions of these dipshits.

(no message)

(no message)

You might want to start getting your info from more legit sources.

Link: Face-painted man in horned fur cap at Capitol riot supports Trump and QAnon, not antifa

They are going to have to spend time distancing themselves from these dipshits.

Of course, many love it.

After the past ~8-10 years I am operating more from principles than party.

Hard to see myself in either camp (so I guess I'm in the wilderness for awhile?)

Socially liberal - I really don't care who you cuddle with
Fiscally conservative - can we please stop spending so much? both R and D
Want a strong military but prefer we try not to use it - even as a vet, and the father of a vet, and the son of a vet... I wish we would keeps troops home
US centric at home - can we sort a way to provide standard healthcare in the US... at least for those under 18?
Not politically correct - per #1 above.. I don't care about your race, gender, sex, dress... just do your job and STFU

and on and on and on...

Glad you guys finally woke up.

Although, I don't know why a bunch of yahoos storming the capital is what did it. Do those guys really represent your party? Really? Then why the hell was the GOP your party in the first place. Very strange.

The Democrats have no problem with the Summer of Love riots. Those riots didn't make them wake up and say, "I no longer have a party." So, either they are good with left-leaning riots (in which case you should still oppose them), or they don't think those urban yahoos represent their party (in which case, why should you claim the yahoos from yesterday in DC?). I don't see how yesterdays events changed anything.

The parties abandoned me a long time ago. I flirted with the libertarians for a while, but now, like most non-morons, I don't like any candidate, I just support the one I hate the least. Funny how the most cult-like people on this board in support of their candidate, call the other side a cult, when most of the other side holds their nose and fights for principle.

I actually think I could even get behind someone that I don't like, but can trust?

I have found myself at odds with some members my family for the better part of 10 years because I'm a "Lib." Friendly banter mostly and it's family so we are cool giving each other grief.

In Europe I am a neocon...US globalist... capitalist... and get a whole different raft of grief.

I think the saying is "if you are in the middle of the road you tend to get run over?" But I am quite comfortable here, and hope that I can get a few to join me.

(no message)

Something like that would gain traction here.

It swept through Ontario from 1995 - 2002 with Premier Mike Harris (Conservative).

The basic tenets were:

- tax reduction
- balanced budget
- reduce the size and role of government
- emphasize individual economic responsibility
- increased health spending

Based on these simple principles Mike Harris was elected Premier of Ontario in 1995 with a sweeping majority. He then went and implemented everything he said he was going to do. Personal taxes were cut 30%, Provincial spending in low priority areas was drastically reduced, abled-bodied unemployed people were taken off welfare and instead transferred to workfare (they had to perform work for the government in return for getting government assistance), he eliminated one entire tier of municipal government in the City of Toronto, he balanced the Provincial budget. His reform was deep and it was harsh, but it was absolutely necessary.

The left went crazy at all the cuts, but the economic results were incredible. During Harris' reign, Ontario's economic growth exceeded every OECD nation. It was a glorious time to be alive. Later, Stephen Harper would borrow much of the Common Sense Revolution's principles and implement them at the Federal level as Prime Minister. I'd rank Harris and Harper as the two best politicians of my lifetime.

There was a study done a few years back that ranked Mike Harris as the best Canadian premier since 1980 (out of 81 Premiers) because his simple approach to government was the most effective. The study looked at the outcome of economic policies on things like job growth, balanced budgets and business investment. The survey went on to indicate that the most effective form of government (at least in Canada) is small c-conservative. I think the same would hold true for the US.

(no message)

(no message)

Our bigger problem in the lower 48 are all of the social issues that the warriors want to fight over.

Conservatives like you and 86domer are the opposite of Trumpism.

Slight quibble with the No. 1 but other than that....I'm on board.

They whip us up to frenzy our support, it used to be every couple years for an election. Now it is 365 days a year, it improves fundraising.

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

Stay tuned.

(no message)

People vote more against than for. If things are honkey dory in 2022, the Dems will clean up. If not... god only knows. Maybe the parties will split. Each has huge conflicts within their bases. The only thing that united the Dems was Trump hatted. With him out of the picture the various identity groups will turn on one another.

(no message)

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/video-timeline-capitol-breach/?itid=hp-top-table-main-0106

(no message)

A veteran of the military who was unarmed. There to protest, shot in cold blood. Where is the media giving her the Heather Heyer treatnent?

where the members of congress were in session? That innocent woman?

If she were a black dude, you'd be all like "welp he shoulda listened duh, I bet he had a gun!"

don't send their soldiers off promising to follow and then desert them.

The army of assholes is profoundly lucky that the Capitol Police responded so amazingly slowly.

I admire the restraint they showed...on the other hand, they failed miserably to stop Moron Nation from taking over the Capitol.

They should have shot more. The rest would have gotten the message.

(no message)

If not, then I suppose the next logical step would be to set up the killing fields and march all dissenters off to what they deserve. No?

She may have been innocent in terms of not doing anything at the time she was shot that merited the use of deadly force.

She was not innocent in terms of illegally storming the capital where there is a more than minimum risk that this could happen.

But she knew the risks.

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

But when a mob of drooling subhumans storm the Capitol of the United States, some of them have to expect to get killed.

The next batch of subhumans needs to be deterred.

That idiot woman knew the risks. It sucks that she died. But it was her choice.

(no message)

(no message)

Very sick post.

I can't imagine that you believe that this her actions are deserving of being shot (let alone killed.)

Everyone of those individuals should have been arrested and the cap police were indeed incompetent in letting it get out of hand. However, firing on the unarmed ... you can't be serious?

(no message)

- Arrest, yep
- Fine, yes
- Imprison, eh seems a bit extreme but a few nights in jail might serve them well
- Shoot to kill? nope ... and makes you sound foolish

I think we can bot agree that this can't end soon enough!

To this piece of trash

She also made a choice and knew the risks.

And so did the rest of those subhumans.

(no message)

Were you referring to the woman who got run over in the street?

They’re equivalent, in your mind?

In 2018. None of them were shot.

Now, acknowledge the fine people hoax. I gave you full text below. Quit ignoring it.

You didn’t.

Maybe she shouldn’t have stormed the US Capitol.

More of them should have been brought out in body bags.

And why did yesterday's protesters need to be shot, but the Senate ones didn't?

the Kavanaugh rioters but not those yesterday.

(no message)

...how outraged the left and the media would be if they applied your fucked up logic to the antifa assholes? they would make saints and martyrs of those scum, yet you all refuse to even condemn their actions. they actually physically attacked innocent people and you stood silently by while the media called them 'peaceful protests'. where's the outrage for this innocent woman who valiantly served the country? your hypocrisy is astounding. you are the problem.

Where is your outrage?

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

Trumpism has been greatly weakened after yesterday’s disgraceful insurrection, but the GOP needs to pivot away from the deranged QAnon Conspiracy Theory White Supremacists base. That monster still exists.

The GOP has 13 days to formally divorce themselves from Trump.

(no message)

(no message)

Along with a corrupt political system.

Violence (not the silly silence is violence, but the real thing) should not be tolerated on either side.
- Storming the cap.. arrest them
- Looting.. arrest them
- Burning a police station... arrest them

Both sides have accepted awful behavior while pointing at others for similar offenses. Not sure how this ends, but the way that we are seeing those who are upset express themselves is a concern.

In all cases it is unacceptable.

police were overrun. This summer was even worse, and no one few spoke out from the left, until about a month and a half in. The stupid people from yesterday followed the example set in the summer instead of behaving like sincere Republicans wanted them too. As much as I like Trump's policies and don't mind when he mocks people who deserve it(Elizabeth Warren), why the hell does he have to get his message across while just a simple no violence speech should have been made.

Over the summer, especially early, I can see the lack of preparedness. In this case, I am shocked that they were not both aware and ready for this. Thankfully, while idiots, they did not burn the place down... which by the looks of it was a real possibility.

Making it hard to stay hopeful that cooler heads (if there are any) will prevail.

(no message)

protest.

Again, look at the obvious beneficiary. I will guarantee that the ANTIFA groups that were behind the violence this past year were the primary agents of chaos yesterday.

1) Who benefited from it. (The Left).
2) Who has the history of resorting to it (The Left)
3) Who was planning to do it and bragging about it (The Left).
4) who was shot (14 year Air Force vet Trump supporter).

In fact, I believe that this was the doing of the same radical left ANTIFA people who hijacked the BLM protests And turned them violent.
But either way, we on the Right are condemning the violence regardless rather than staying silent. We would also not condone it if they took over city blocks for weeks/months and set up an autonomous zone, and we do not want to defund the police either.

So far, all that have been identified are Trumpers, not antifa.

Link: Face-painted man in horned fur cap at Capitol riot supports Trump and QAnon, not antifa

And the 140 + House members who signed onto the objections are equally culpable.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-hawley-and-cruz-will-each-wear-the-scarlet-s-of-a-seditionist/2021/01/06/65b0ad1a-506c-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

especially when they're right. makes you look extra stupid.

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yhSdiwrLYIs

(no message)

Your arrogance.

Shows your stupidity.

(no message)

The point is that our leaders in all aspects of our society have failed us over the last 20 years.

We will see in a day or two who stormed the building and who caused the problems. Rs immediately condemned today. Ds never have condemned anything going back to last Spring. Dems are the party of late term abortion up till the moment of birth and now libs are going to lecture us?

(no message)

(no message)

(no message)

I'm not going to just because you want me to. Condemning violence should be a no brainer that shouldn't requiring all the outrage and preening some of you are showing.

(no message)

supporters to storm the country’s Capital and beat police officers.

Where’s your condemnation of today’s action. You seem to agree with me criticizing the D’s for BLM and the looting and arson.

What’s the deal?

He said walk over to the building. Are we to be so self righteous that we need to condemn violence for everyone to see. Being anti-violence should be the norm and I don't need to bow to the crowd by displaying public outrage. Getting lectured by pro-abortion war machine crowd is rich. The politicians and TV talking heads are tripping all over themselves trying to be the most outraged, including some here. An unarmed woman was killed by police. She was white and she was a vet. All lives matter. Say her name.

ultimate price. She had to know that coming into the Capital through a broken window is never good. She put herself into that situation. Sad but true.