To follow up on Eli's post, it's not going well in Ukraine or on the sanctions front. So what's the
plan? A "long war" at US taxpayer expense?
Link: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-says-prepare-worst-donbas-kharkiv-will-likely-be-next-frontline-city
Replies to: To follow up on Eli's post, it's not going well in Ukraine or on the sanctions front. So what's the
He thinks the war helps Trump somehow.
And that’s all he gives a shit about.
Eli I understand, but what motivates you to pull for Putin against Ukraine, the U.S. and all other
democracy loving countries?...would a couple of dollars less per gallon be enough to gain your support?
I haven't followed this thread, but you already accused me of pulling for Putin, just like your
your neo lib/neo con accused Trump of Putin puppy, Rand Paul of Russian asset, Tulsi of Russian agent, Carlson of extension of Russian propaganda.... The goal is to shut down different opinions. Who the hell will discuss with a Russia asset/agent)puppy? I am too familiar with his kind of political tactics toward opponents because I came from this background.
I pull for American interest. Your failed policy is ruining most Americans, favoring special interest groups.
Is it just an issue of a few dollars on oil? I didn't say that. You are trying to reduce suffering resulted from this war.
In my thread, I quoted clearly from WaPo report, it is the price of global recession and mounting hanger that Biden administration is willing to pay in order to fight this war in Ukraine which is supposed to be of no interest to U.S.
First, here's a "shibboleth" for you...Did Putin start this war...and without provocation?
Any response other than "Yes" means you are spreading Putin's lies...ergo, you are "Pulling for Putin".
Vladimir represents an existential threat to democracy everywhere, and by his meddling with our 2016 and 2020 elections, he is absolutely OUR enemy...it is vital to our interests that he not succeed in Ukraine...and just as important, we have a deep commitment to Europe which obviously sees a threat to their safety and well-being..
Not all that hard to understand why we're involved...and will stay involved until Ukraine is satisfied with the outcome...btw, U.S. support for Ukraine is bi-partisan...it is American policy.
I get the sense that you are of Russian ancestry living in a section of the country that has a significant number of Russian immigrants...is your support more about your affection for your homeland, or do you truly think Putin is in the right on all of this?...you don't need to answer if you don't want to, but if you're comfortable enough, please share.
Dear propaganda poster, Pope is spreading Putin's lie according to you. WTF.
The Pope is doing his best to be a 'mediator'...check out this excerpt from your link...
"The pope said he was not “pro-Putin” and that it would be “simplistic and wrong to say such a thing”. He also said Russia had “miscalculated” the war. “It is also true that the Russians thought it would all be over in a week. They encountered a brave people, a people who are struggling to survive and who have a history of struggle.”
"On Tuesday morning, the pontiff published a message saying the invasion of Ukraine was A VIOLATION OF A COUNTRY'S RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION". (my emphasis)
“The war in Ukraine has now been added to the regional wars that for years have taken a heavy toll of death and destruction,” he said in a message for the Roman Catholic church’s World Day of the Poor, which will be marked in November. “Yet here the situation is even more complex due to the direct intervention of a ‘superpower’ aimed at imposing its own will in violation of the principle of the self-determination of peoples.”
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It's pretty clear that the Pope is accusing Russia (Putin) of a wrongful attack...no other way to spin it... comments like "Possibly Provoked" are meant only to provide the slightest opening for further mediation...and by no means support for Putin's aggression.
btw, any response you want to make re: your personal ancestry, etc?
Check out your own words, which means Pope is spreading Putin's lie. No need more BS from you
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Translation: You can't spin the Pope's words to fit your narrative...so you quickly exit...I'm
sure you'll come up with some other argument, but it's certainly getting harder for you...actually...impossible...learn to deal with it while the rest of the world demonstrates how important freedom is...for a hint, think back to the Berlin Wall coming down.
I want to know what the plan is to win. Europe is still buying R gas.
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Cole, their plan is escalation of this war by providing more heavy weapons and $$$$
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Not really "escalation", but rather leveling the playing field when it comes to long range weapons
that Russia is currently using against Ukraine...no need for the Ukrainians to fight with one arm tied behind their backs. IMO the Russians have gotten their noses bloodied in close fights...they are now relying on long range missiles and artillery...why shouldn't Ukraine be able to use similar weapons?...are you concerned that such actions would increase Putin's "humiliation", whereby he'd need to resort to nuclear weapons in order to "save face"?...that guy needs to go...however the Russians want to do it...plain and simple.
What a stupid point. Will Russia allow you level the playing field? It's going to be escalated
Did you live in arm race era of many decades ago? I guess not. You are very ignorant in history and military. It's so obvious, why you continue to talk about something you know little? Googling only made you superficial, not knowledgeable. Googling is not equal to learning. But you don't realize that.
Tyrone/Chris/Biden-they are stupid evil. They will inch us closer to WWIII until it's on top of us.
It's like they never studied how WWI and II had long lead ups and then, bam -- off we went to war. They act like everything will be fine.
Speaking of World Wars...do you recall the approach Neville Chamberlain took?...are you
suggesting that each time Vladimir Putin says "Boo!" the rest of the world takes a step back?...Leaders in the the EU and U.S. are well aware of the consequences and are acting accordingly. This confrontation with Putin is historical...he must be stopped, and yielding to his aggression is not going to achieve that end...
Even though Europeans are paying $7-8 per gallon now, they're committed to getting away
from Russian gas...(see link)...
They know what's at stake...the question is, when will you learn?
Link: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/18/eu-rushes-out-210-billion-euro-investment-to-ditch-russian-energy
Have you reviewed the Federal Budget? This is less than a pittance.
How you seen what Putin is doing in Ukraine? There should be a Nuremberg trial for this monster, even in absencia!
And then there is the precedent issue with China and Iran.
But hell… let’s go ostrich and bury our isolationist head in the sand like we did in the 1930s.
Confirmed you have no plan to win except half-assed support.
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The fact that the Ukraine is still fighting and ..
and controlling over 75% percent of their country are success es. Let’s see how recent supplies of arms have on the Russian scum. 6 months into this war and Russia is still stuck in the east. Fuck Putin and all of his supporters.
Exactly. Ukraine has fought their ass off. Well above expectations.
The United States has to have Ukraine’s back in this fight.
History demands it. Whatever it takes.
Even without the draft you pulled for
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