Board Poll: As I'm struggling with anyone thinking this game affects ND's future playoff chances..
Given this hypothetical: ND is 12- 0 next year. There is one Power 5 school undefeated at 13-0, and one Group of 5 undefeated at 13-0. There are 3 other Power 5 schools with one loss.
A. ND is in the 4 team play-off
B. ND is not in the top 4 and out of the play-offs
Replies to: Board Poll: As I'm struggling with anyone thinking this game affects ND's future playoff chances..
I think from here on out if we go 12-0 that we have to
we have to Dominate most of the Sub-Par teams. I believe every team is entitled to one off/struggle game, but with BK it's usually multiple. So I think if we go 12-0 next year but struggle with New Mexico, Bowling Green, Louisville, and Duke that they don't let us in, and if BK is still here I really don't Blame them. "Fool us twice shame on you"
Re: Board Poll: As I'm struggling with anyone thinking this game affects ND's future playoff chances..
It really depends on the quality of play. If like this year and 2012, they should be left out.
Re: Board Poll: As I'm struggling with anyone thinking this game affects ND's future playoff chances..
I didn't realize that previous bowl history is now part of the criteria for making the playoffs.
There were voices even this year about moving teams with losses ahead of us. This makes it worse.
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Losing a semi hasnt hurt other teams
but they do not have Brian Kelly as a coach. His comfort and skill level clearly is at the Music City/ Pinstripe Bowls. The chance for a playoff repeat invite depends on the probability of ND being undefeated next year, which with any team is rather low. In terms of 2019 losses, I would expect, at a minimum, a Cotton Bowl type of blowout vs Georgia next year.
But done of those teams are called Notre Dame
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My 2 cents
Since ND is playing Georgia next year in Athens, I would like to think that if they win that one, they should take care of the rest of the teams on the schedule since GA is by far the best team we play.
So if ND is undefeated with a win in Athens, I would imagine they would still make the top 4. Especially if GA goes 12-1 and wins the SEC. It's a no brainer at that point. I would say the same thing for the years Clemson is on the schedule.
However, if UGA were not on the schedule next year and we were playing let's say Sparty or PSU. I say they would be left out. ND is gong to get punished moving forward because of 12 and 18. The losses were just too embarrassing.
Next year we are at Georgia, we beat those guys in Athens we could win the rest by 1 and be in
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Agreed
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Since we have time on our hands, what about a close win at UGA but they pound Bama for SEC title?
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Close win at UGA and they slaughter Bama is a dream scenario. Did you mean loss?
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UGA would play in the SEC Championship I supposed a beat down of Bama. ND out even win a win at UGA
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If the scenario plays out as you described, Notre Dame is the #1 team in the country
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Are you saying undefeated, beat Georgia at Georgia, and UGA then slaughters Bama? Yeah ND is in...
...in that unlikely scenario.
That plane crash jumbled your brain. In response I said ND can beat UGA but
Even if ND goes undefeated but UGA stomps Bama in the SEC title game they get in over ND. This is exhausting.
"win a win". First off your English is jumbled. Second, you haven't defined half the scenario.
So ND beats Georgia by a point early and goes undefeated and Georgia slaughters an undefeated Alabama at the end and finishes 12-1? (The records matter.)
Yes both go to the playoff, Georgia at #1 and ND at #2 because of past history, but who really cares about that scenario?
It's at the margin where ND will get passed over that it matters most, and actually I think we agree...when you speak properly.
First I’m writing, second, your reading comprehension is not the same since the crash. But we agree
Based on their performance in the playoffs ND gets passed over by the committee.
Yes, I get that you're writing. ("Speak" was written purposefully and jokingly,)
I understand 'right good" when people WRITE clearly.
You could have actually been a hell of a lot clearer...but we essentially agree on the effect.
Are you from Appalachia or just making me crazy, “understand right good” WTF haha
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I'm from the rural part of New York City.
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Not necessarily. Great win were it to occur. For arguments sake, Georgia loses early to us & loses
two other SEC games as they did last year. Now they're no longer "elite" next year (essentially because they lost to ND).
Couple that with say other SEC teams rising (LSU, Florida or TAMU for example). Talk will be that ND beat the 3 loss SEC team. but not one of the "Elite" SEC teams of 2019. "If only ND had played one-loss Florida or TAMU, then we'd have a valuable data point, but 3 loss Georgia just doesn't quite qualify."
Just sayin'...
Georgia is loaded, more so than this Clemson team. Winning there, at night, would be FSU 93-esque
They'll be a top 3 team. We'll be at least 10 point dogs. In all likelihood we aren't winning that game. But, if we did, we'd be in. Georgia isn't losing three times in a regular season. Also, they miss LSU and Alabama next season. Get A&M at home.
12-0 means a road victory at Georgia...ND is easily in
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Not if they lose to USC, Navy or Louisville
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He was wondering if a 12-0 ND in 2019 would be left out
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Probably, Mark many people had UGA with two losses ahead of ND this year. It’s over.
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Clemson, OSU, OU, Wash, MSU, and FSU have all been blown out in the playoffs
This idea the committee will looks at prior years results in these games is silly.
Without a 13th game and a conference championship under their belt, ND will be subjected...
...to a different type of scrutiny.
Bias from prior years, certainly with no overlap of talent, should NEVER enter into it.
It would be very naïve to think that it does not, however.
ND was throttled by Miami last year and handled by Stanford
They still made it into the playoffs this year.
Again, the media is not the committee.
12-0 ND is in every time.
And I would say not necessarily. Every circumstance is different and this year further weakened the
brand for the playoffs. We are making our perception another step closer to that of UCF when a weak schedule is played rather than the converse.
12-0 is unique. Is the shot at 11-1 less than it was before this game? If you don't say yes, you're deluding yourself.
then why
Do you all keep harping in it over and over again?
Who? Repeat after me, the media is not the committee. The media is not the committee.
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Is the committee locked in a hermetically sealed room and fed games for a year without commentary?
Yes, the committee is not the media. To pretend the media has zero impact on the committee is naïve at best.
It depends on how we go 12-0
A huge win on the road @ GA, and blowout teams with a show of strength we will likely get in.
Just stop
If we go undefeated next year, that means we beat UGA on the road. We'd be a lock for the playoffs. End of discussion.
Agreed. I am amazed some think differently.
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