Stuckey certainly seems to have a WR type 6'2-6'3 200lbs + possession guys!
Since arriving in South Bend, Notre Dame’s receivers coach had landed the following receivers: Braylon James (#125), Jaden Greathouse (#138), Rico Flores (#223), Kaleb Smith (#542), Cam Williams (#29), Isiah Canion (#194), Micah Gilbert (#199).
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Re: Stuckey certainly seems to have a WR type 6'2-6'3 200lbs + possession guys!
Kaleb Smith is not a possession Reciever. He’s one of the fastest WRs in Texas. Also, they’re in good shape with Robinson in this class. I have a lot of issues with the ‘24 class (mostly Defense), but Stuckey has been a God Send.
Yeah... But it would be nice to have some Will Fuller-Golden Tate types on the roster...
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Exactly!! Like every top 5 team has in abundance
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Define abundance
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3+....Bama had 3 WRs hit the portal and two of them were 4.3 guys
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I'm skeptical that they had 3 WRs running a legit 4.3
Anything is possible but, that number gets thrown around carelessly.
Yes, most ppl do but I don't these were legit 10.4×-10.6× 100 meter guys
All ran at camps except Harrell who a FL track star!
Aaron Anderson 10.67 (4.39)
Christian Leary 10.48 (4.37)
JoJo Earle 10.91 as a JR (4.41)
Tyler Harrell 10.36 (4.24 at L'ville)
Yeesh....I want some of those.
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Exactly! So do I, but it seems to be the exact same body type and relative speed
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For comparison, here are some times of NDs WRs.
Chris Tyree - 10.74 (4.37)
Braylon James - 10.76
Deion Colzie - 10.82
Tobias Merriweather - 10.93
Braden Lenzy - 10.64
Not too shabby.
Tyree ran 10.66 as a Soph but James ran the 110mH??
Where did you find an open 100 for James because those events are right after another?? Tyree would've been a 10.38-10-44 guy if not for Covid and basically missing his last 2 years of outdoor Track.
I'd have to go back to Google again. It wasn't easy to find.
I'll try to look later.
Yea I was huge into Track and I know 110 and 100 combo is basically impossible
They are run right after another and I've never seen a 100 time for Braylon James of TX but found another Braylon James. I remember coaching AAU and saw him run it with the Thunderboltz but it was somewhere in the mid 11 range but he was probably 14, but I'll search that.
Here are the 40 times for 2023 NFL Combine WRs.
There are very few legit 4.3 guys in each draft.
Name
School
40-Yard Dash Time
Trey Palmer
Nebraska
4.33
Derius Davis
TCU
4.36
Matt Landers
Arkansas
4.37
Bryce Ford-Wheaton
West Virginia
4.38
Marvin Mims Jr.
Oklahoma
4.38
Jalen Cropper
Fresno State
4.40
Jalin Hyatt
Tennessee
4.40
Tre Tucker
Cincinnati
4.40
Jacob Copeland
Maryland
4.42
Zay Flowers
Boston College
4.42
Andrei Iosivas
Princeton
4.43
Charlie Jones
Purdue
4.43
Demario Douglas
Liberty
4.44
Rakim Jarrett
Maryland
4.44
Tyler Scott
Cincinnati
4.44
Jayden Reed
Michigan State
4.45
Jonathan MIngo
Mississippi State
4.45
Antoine Green
North Carolina
4.47
A.T. Perry
Wake Forest
4.47
Josh Downs
North Carolina
4.47
Jordan Addison
USC
4.49
Tank Dell
Houston
4.49
Kayshon Boutte
LSU
4.50
Rashee Rice
SMU
4.51
Jalen Wayne
South Alabama
4.51
Xavier Hutchinson
Iowa State
4.53
Ronnie Bell
Michigan
4.54
Elijah Higgins
Stanford
4.54
Joseph Ngata
Clemson
4.54
Cedric Tillman
Tennessee
4.54
Kearis Jackson
Georgia
4.55
Justin Shorter
Florida
4.55
Michael Jefferson
Louisiana
4.56
Grant DuBose
Charlotte
4.57
Michael Wilson
Stanford
4.58
Jason Brownlee
Southern Mississippi
4.59
Jaray Jenkins
LSU
4.60
Mitchell Tinsley
Penn State
4.60
Dontayvion Wicks
Virginia
4.62
Malik Heath
Mississippi
4.64
Jadon Haselwood
Arkansas
4.66
Jalen Brooks
South Carolina
4.69
Link: https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/wide-receiver-40-yard-dash-times-2023-draft-combine-01gt7k974hh7
Yep. Ruggs was probably the only Bama WR going on 10 years that ran a 4.3
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False! Harrell, Waddle and DeAndrew White were definite 4.3 guys
Waddle beat him as a Freshman and Ruggs returned the favor then Waddle again but the guy ran 10.65 as a Prep Freshman that's flying.
False. DeAndrew White ran a 4.44 at the combine.
I'm not looking them all up. I might have missed Waddle when I looked at combine results. Feel free to post official combine results for the others.
After an injury he did but he also ran 4.34 at his Pro Day and 4.32 at 'Bama.
He ran the fastest 40 time while he was at 'Bama on the 2013 and 2014 teams.
So the question is, do they have any 4.3 WRs left after the transfers?
Then we can compare Bama's actual WRs to ND's.
They brought in a few more in this class like Benson, Adams and Hamilton.
Malik Benson 10.38
Isaiah Bond 10.46 (4.37) as a JR
Kendrick Law 10.48w (4.41) as a JR
Jaren Hamilton 10.91 at 14 (4.39)
Cole Adams 10.65 & 6.98 60m (4.49) as SO!😳
Kobe Prentice 10.71 (4.38)
Maybe not allWRs on top 5 teams are 4.3s.But GA CB Kelee Ringo dropped to the 4th RD because he
had trouble covering the Ohio State speedsters in the bowl game. SC, GA, Bama, OSU, Clemson and Michigan all have very fast guys...
Yea with him it was technique...Ringo was faster than 98% of the guys he covered
I remember watching him at the AAU meets guy could run low 10.4s.
Not 4.3 fast. And most likely not faster than NDs WRs.
Which is what the OP's point was.
Our WRs??? A converted RB is our only "true" blazer (4.3) at WR!
Then a notch below you have Colzie then Merriweather who has a nice blend of size and speed but a long strider and then Braylon James in the same mold as Merriweather. All the other guys are possession guys who wouldn't break 4.5
We shall see in September and Mid October. Hope I'm wrong! Will be there for both games.
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This ^^^^^
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Hey the REAL Coley O'Brien is a nice guy!
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And?
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He was a guest at our club picnic back in the early 90's
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He was a friend and teammate at ND with one of our local guys Jeff Zimmerman of Blue Mountain High..
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Same with SC, Georgia, Ohio State & Michigan. DL prototypes can also move their asses...
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Amen....
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I'd say it's Freeman's model. If you look at the DL recruits, they are all 6'3 to 6'5" with long,
big frames to grow into. This could just as easily be attributed to Al Washington. In the end, it is a team recruiting effort but they definitely have a model they are going for at each position and Freeman is the guy with the final say on what that model will be. I love the model they have and the recruiting operation as a whole.
And I agree with you, the model at WR is definitely the 6'2"-6'3" and 200+ pound types.
Big receivers make excellent downfield blockers...
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We need some excellent downfield deep threats...
Merriweather and James are really the only possibilities on this roster that have played exclusively at WR! I know Tyree will be in the slot
Maybe the plan is follow the Stanford model...
It's was ugly football, but effective. Cardinal WR were big, but not that athletic, and would box out smaller DBs for the ball. Given Stanford had an old school ground and pound, could be that's how ND rolls...
Probably not wise to follow a 3-8 or 4-9 teams model🤷
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Stanford model won't win a National Championship.
ND had a great O-line and couldn't budge Clemson in the playoffs. Georgia's defensive is the same. Their just to athletic.
Their model hasn't won them 5 games forget a 'Chip
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If ND regularly got those kind of athletes, it wouldn't be the ND we know...
Witnessing what U of Owe does to recruit elite players indicates ND can never consistently get that manner of player. That's a very good thing..
You know our WR are not athletic ? Interesting
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This is just nuts. We have fast explosive WRs on the roster.
Ones that will get playing time. There are more on the way too. The athleticism in the WR has improved substantially.
They ain't elite. Those go somewhere else...
For every Will Fuller, we get far bigger, stronger, slower WRs that are excellent at what they do. ND isn't the choice of the Randy Moss type receiver, otherwise the roster would have 5 star WR. But, that doesn't mean the guys at WR can't do their assignments just as effectively...
^^^Very accurate...We get 6'2 4.5 guys but need guys like Wingo, Branch, Jalen Brown
Crazy how Holtz would get these guys in abundance and have to convert them to Defense alot of times.
Randy Moss did choose ND. Just sayin'.
BTW, Cam Williams is ranked as a 5 star. And so was what's his name (seriously, I can't remember his name) who transfered out a couple years ago.
That being said, tOSU is the gold standard for WRs and we aren't on their level. I'd put ours up against Bama's or Clemson's though.
We're not par with tOSU or 'Bama
'Bama had three 5 stars in the PORTAL alone and then brought in two more 5 stars and a 4 star! Just insane
Yea! but never played, don't remind us
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DL is certainly due to Al Washington
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I would hope not based on what his alma mater is doing!?
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