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Hawley says R party is dead, MAGAism is failing so....

Author: Quest4twelve (6670 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:39 am on Nov 13, 2022
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How do the Rs try to appeal to a broader voting base? Their core tenants of anti abortion has failed in dramatic fashion. They claim to be for the blue collar worker with no economic policy. DeSantis while hot will not win a Pennsylvania, Michigan or Wisconsin.

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Have the core tenants failed, or have they been misrepresented?

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 10:39 am on Nov 14, 2022
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Most Americans fall somewhere in between abolishing abortion completely and killing babies at full term. Most Americans can find common ground on this issue.

It's the media and the politicians that drive the narrative to the edges, and the purpose in doing so is voter manipulation. It's disgusting.


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All Republicans are scum. MAGAT's are inbred morons.

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 11:34 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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It is dead because we now have single party rule with illegitimate elections.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:14 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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Jan 6 was a warning to all who might consider protesting - even peacefully - what will happen if they oppose it.

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More baloney. Every day.

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The Electorate has rejected your narrative.

Author: conorlarkin (21004 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:55 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2022/11/13/election-deniers-defeated-state-races/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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"Provocateur Alert!"...none of this is true...and he knows it.

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:30 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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BVZ is not a stupid man...he has seen that the 2020 election results were upheld in over 60 court challenges, including the Supreme Court, BEFORE the Jan. 6th Insurrection which was definitely not a "Peaceful Demonstration"...and attested to by the Vice President and Senate Minority Leader, along with Trump's campaign manager....ergo, he (Baron) is simply acting as a "Provocateur"...or "Agitator"...or "Fomenter"...or "Inciter"....or "Rabble Rouser"...take your pick ;-).

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Congrats! Only took 4 days to "count" the votes you needed this time!

Author: jakers (13884 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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Denouncing Camp Siegfried when you lose is a brave position. An extremists lament!

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:36 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The American voter is dead.

Author: ELP (9560 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:13 am on Nov 13, 2022
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The Fetterman vote all but killed the so called American dream. It's now every man for himself. I don't want to hear about any more subway crimes or violence on the streets because the voters made it clear that turns them on. The abortion issue has been settled when the voters of Montana voted against the pro-life "Born Alive" measure. Non of this has to do with the "genius" of the left. It's about the complete apathy and growing immorality of the American voter. I don't care about the big city crime because the voters want it. I don't care about all this gender garbage because the voters voted for it. They voted for open borders, opioids and fentanyl, mutilation of children, the border slave trade, abortion up until birth, sending even more money to Ukraine, more masks, more school closings, more jabs, high gas prices, bullshit little electric clown cars. They voted for it all. They voted for this election chaos. The left think it's all too funny. The right has turned apathetic. The black churches and the Cathlic universities, Bishops, and Cardinals all will have to answer for this as we all will have to. The Hispanic, black, college age, and white suburban female voters are all completely down with this.

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Listen to the Angry White Man having a tantrum. GOP voters picked Oz vs McCormick in primary.

Author: conorlarkin (21004 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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McCormick, who lost the GOP Primary to Oz by 1000 votes, "received his bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering from the United States Military Academy at West Point and his Ph.D. in international affairs from Princeton University. His professional experience includes working as the CEO of Bridgewater Associates, an investment management firm, and under secretary in both the Department of Commerce and Department of the Treasury. He served in the Army's 82nd Airborne Division during the Persian Gulf War."

My guess is that McCormick would have beat Fetterman.

But, your "base" has embraced all the MAGA nonsense. These voters existed before Trump. Trump was simply their Avatar. And they have clung to Trump, who gave them Oz.

The reality is that this chunk of MAGA voters/loyalists is a minority chunk of the general electorate -- maybe 33% at best, but likely around 25%.

You are part of that chunk of voters, which will become increasingly irrelevant.

Reflect and Repent.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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"Angry White Men" WOW! How absolutely Pathetic of You.

Author: Frankx (5309 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 3:48 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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"Angry White Men" is the name of my Molly Hatchet tribute band.

Author: ELP (9560 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:14 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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That shits funny right there.

Author: Frankx (5309 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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This video sums it up.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:56 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzOZuPgcMc

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NY man arrested with 20,000 fentanyl pills was released without bail.

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 10:44 am on Nov 13, 2022
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These voters get what they deserve. I don't care if they all OD or are pushed onto the subway tracks or whatever. They voted for this chaos so they can own it.

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re: Fentanyl Crisis...started growing in 2014 and has gotten worse since then...including 2017-21...

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:13 am on Nov 13, 2022
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turns out that DJT "DEFUNDED" critical programs that were designed to fight addictive drugs, including Fentanyl...blaming this problem on Dems is lazy and mindless political hacking.

Here's another link regarding the burgeoning Fentanyl Crisis that I've posted earlier to help you better understand the issue...

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf


Link: https://www.npr.org/2020/10/29/927859091/opioid-crisis-critics-say-trump-fumbled-response-to-another-deadly-epidemic

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For the sake of argument, let's assume that's true. But it's 2022. What's

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 11:17 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Biden doing about it other than having an open Southern border?

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Our Southern Border is no more "Open" now than before...the only difference is many more people

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:50 am on Nov 13, 2022
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being driven by disasters and intolerable chaos in their home countries (e.g. Haiti, Venezuela, El Salvador, etc.)...yet those people are being interdicted at the border and processed according to established U.S. laws and quotas.

An unknown number of immigrants have eluded arrest, but those occurrences have always existed in every administration (see earlier comment regarding the number of 'Semi' trailers crossing into the U.S. each day)...and more walls are not the answer...even the GOP would not pass legislation to fund Trump's 'Wall'.

We need comprehensive bi-partisan legislation which so far the GOP has been unwilling to even debate.

Again, you're barking up the wrong tree.


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Ty, that is bs and just the spin the current administration is putting on the issue. So these

Author: jray (3338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:29 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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disasters just sprung up after Biden got sworn in as President? I’ve seen numerous people interviewed that said they only came because Biden was president and they were being told this administration would allow them in as Biden during his campaign basically encouraged them to come. I’m sure there’s a lot a great heart felt stories of people just trying to better themselves but we are a nation of laws and this administration hasn’t enforced the law as they are here illegally. My fear is the bad people getting in and the close to 1M got aways in less than two years. People have a short memory of 9-11-2001. In addition, you are such a pro vaccine person with Covid. Fair enough. That’s your choice however doesn’t it bother you that Americans were forced to get vaccinated or were demonized if they personally chose not to get the vaccine but the illegals aren’t being mandated to be vaccinated? It makes no sense. They can get dumped off anywhere and be spreading the disease. You know, I’m a nice guy and would like to better myself. However, I just can’t go into your house, eat your food, take your money, etc. I feel if a person comes in illegally, they should go to jail, just like I can’t rob a bank to better myself. The law is the law. We can’t just arbitrarily select which laws will be enforced and which won’t.

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March 16, 2021..."Biden tells migrants not to come to US: ‘Don’t leave your town’"...whoever you saw

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:21 pm on Nov 13, 2022
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didn't get the memo...(see link)...and apparently you didn't either....find another false trope to peddle.


As for COVID vaccines and immigrants...go to the CDC website...ALL immigrants are required to have been vaccinated in their home countries (if available) before entry, or submit to a health screening where if they are age-eligible, and not qualified for a waiver, they WILL be vaccinated...

Once again, you fail to do your homework and make an erroneous post based on what you "Think" is correct....not a good strategy.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/politics/joe-biden-migrant-children-border-immigration/index.html

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About the illegals vaccinations, I saw Psaki get asked the question and she said yes they weren’t

Author: jray (3338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 am on Nov 14, 2022
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required so either she is lying or the CDC is lying.

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Please provide the text or video if it matters so much to you...tell me again...how does this relate

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:32 pm on Nov 14, 2022
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to fentanyl, jray?

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They are both leftist idiots, why do you bother?

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 11:38 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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Another ad hominem post without substance...you're wasting server space on this "Forum".

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:54 am on Nov 13, 2022
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First off, it is extremely difficult to search each tractor trailer from Mexico (20K/day in Laredo)

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:38 am on Nov 13, 2022
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for Fentanyl pills....wouldn't you agree?...but at least the Biden administration has called for increased funding to address addiction and the Overdose Epidemic (see linked WH statement)...as opposed to Trump's efforts to 'Defund' such programs (see my earlier link).

Compare and contrast Biden vs. Trump in this arena.


Link: https://www.whitehouse.gov/ondcp/briefing-room/2022/03/28/president-biden-calls-for-increased-funding-to-address-addiction-and-the-overdose-epidemic/

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Such a simpleton to blame drug demand on the border. But continue on with your BS

Author: Quest4twelve (6670 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:29 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Just like prohibition with alcohol, people will find a way to use.

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Not sure about that, but in this recent NY case bail was set at $25,000 cash...

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:03 am on Nov 13, 2022
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from the attached DEA statement...
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BUSH was arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday, September 30, 2022. Bail was set at $25,000 cash/$150,000 insurance company bond/$100,000 partially secured surety bond.
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Link: https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2022/10/04/trafficker-quantities-rainbow-fentanyl-arrive-new-york

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What are you not sure about? It's right here. And I'm happy he got released

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 11:08 am on Nov 13, 2022
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so he can peddle more fentanyl around NY.

Link: https://nypost.com/2022/11/13/man-arrested-with-20000-fentanyl-pills-set-free/

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As I just showed you, not every case results in 'No Bail'..."It Depends...", and you can better

Author: TyroneIrish (20401 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:26 am on Nov 13, 2022
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understand why if you read the attached article. Regarding Fentanyl, also be sure to read the material I posted in this thread...if anyone has messed up the response to the problem, it's DJT for seeking to defund vital anti-addiction programs.

Link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-yorks-latest-bail-law-changes-explained

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Only place I see this story is NY Post.

Author: Quest4twelve (6670 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:55 am on Nov 13, 2022
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So?

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 10:59 am on Nov 13, 2022
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So your spin is to blame the voter not the candidate that just says "other side bad"? Got it.

Author: Quest4twelve (6670 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:44 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Fetterman's win tells me it's the voter, not the candidate. You can spin it anyway you want.

Author: ELP (9560 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:58 am on Nov 13, 2022
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You want to keep pressing the bad R candidate angle when the severely incapable Fetterman won is laughable. The fact that Katie Hobbs, an equally not ready for prime time hiding in the basement candidate, is so close to a W tells me the the Pennsylvania voter mind set is spreading.

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You make me laugh. What was the single most talked about policy by the R candidates

Author: Quest4twelve (6670 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:05 am on Nov 13, 2022
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were pushing?

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What a coincidence because you make me laugh too.

Author: ELP (9560 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 11:09 am on Nov 13, 2022
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That's an issue. Abortions, fentanyl, open borders, crime, fuel costs are all laughable to you and the left. Party over country.

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Your whole post is why Rs got laughed at the polls. Voters are smarter than the R rhetoric

Author: Quest4twelve (6670 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:17 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Yep. Saving an unborn precious little one is rhetoric.

Author: ELP (9560 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 11:28 am on Nov 13, 2022
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Completely agree, it's like

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:30 am on Nov 13, 2022
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just "fuck it" nobody cares

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Early and mail in voting is a major issue which the Rs refuse to seriously address.

Author: ELP (9560 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:52 am on Nov 13, 2022
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The Pennsylvania voter is the shining example of party before country. And these fools actually are high fiving each other over this. That single election has destroyed voter responsibility and intelligence for years to come. And that mind set has spread throughout the country. We are screwed and the Rs in power let it happen. My Indiana two term R governor, Eric Holcomb, is galivanting around at a climate change summit with all the lefties over seas instead of dealing with Indiana's gas prices and stumping for Jennifer Ruth Greene, a MINORITY FEMALE R conservative candidate running for an all important congressional seat. She lost. So much for the female minority angle that the media and the left adore.

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