I'm embarrassed for Notre Dame.
Replies to: I'm embarrassed for Notre Dame.
It was 98% stupid to ever ask an 18 to get a covid vax.
It was 100% stupid to ask 18 year olds to get the covid vax after we learned that the vax didn't stop the spread. (Which we learned about 2 months after the vax was released to the general public).
It is now 1000% stupid to ask an 18 year old to get the covid vax.
Seems pretty stupid.
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They need to stretch this out since the Monkey Pox scare didn't last long.
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The old people in the stands are afraid of getting sick.What do you expect?
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Cheer, Cheer for Old Notre Dame!! Get the jab or hit the bricks!!
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Get a jab! Sha-na-na-na, sha-na-na-na...
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….no masks at ND either. Go Irish!
My post below addresses the vax mandate. Absent new developments, Im betting this one gets changed by enrollment next Fall,
Its out of date and nonsensical for this group to be required to get it, and following the science, it is not helpful in prevention to others for the students to be required to get the vax either,
At ridk people should get it, and low risk people should weigh the risks and benefits for themselves in their personal decision.
Any good doctor knows this.
The threat to our Health Care Systems is over (i.e. Pandemic), but we still have >100K deaths/yr...
which is ~3X the rate for "Seasonal Flu", plus all the other "Long COVID" detriments for many others...if you want to have in-person learning, then this is a very reasonable requirement...repeated gatherings in close quarters will always result in increased spread of an airborne pathogen (see link).
Not sure what the 'hubbub' is all about...the vaxes are safe and free...students should focus on their own 'mid-terms' instead.
Link: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/13/australia/australia-covid-majestic-princess-cruise-passengers-intl-hnk/index.html
The vaccines are not safe. U.K. shows you are more likely to die from Covid if vaccinated
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You can't say that. We must trust the 'Science'. With 5
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Weird to announce a plan for next September now.
Who knows wtf is going to happen between now and then?
(Assuming I read that correctly)
Per the announcement, all students have until March 1, 2023 to get the vaccine.
they are urged to do it soon, given the upcoming Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays where 'Social Distancing' will be non-existent ;-).
Phew, so it will provide zero benefit to anyone in September.
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I suspect there will be pushback by then. Vaccination is personal decision based on risk factors at
this juncture already.
It very clearly does not prevent transmission, though it certain can be of individual benefit. It clearly comes with risk factors as well…as all vaccines do. ND is a private university and can do what they want here, but I suspect there will be some pretty stout pushback on this at this point and in this age group given the data. The argument that giving the vaccine to the healthy, young students is to protect the older faculty members with risk factors no longer holds water.
Anecdotally, my fully vaccinated child got COVID at ND while on campus under their tight guidelines….the only person in our family to get it. It’s going to happen regardless. The severity is mitigated in “at risk” people with the vaccine though it is extremely likely to have been of no significant help to my healthy child.
If it’s required, she will just do it. But again, my bet is that this gets quietly changed in the next several months.
Baron: "The severity is mitigated in “at risk” people with the vaccine..."...but he then goes on to
to say "Meh"...Dr. Welby he is not.
Marcus?
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PS - they did drop the mask bullshit fairly quickly.
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That's just plain silly
Omicron is so mild, that if the people of impoverished southern African nations reported it being quite mild, then I would have to guess that a developed nation like ours would be just fine as well.
Also, the virus is mutating constantly, so any Omicron-based vaccines are going to be useless in a relatively short time.
Make no mistake about it... The original vaccines did a fine job of doing what they were supposed to do, and that was to combat the Alpha and Delta outbreak. However, they quickly became all but useless once the spike protein mutants (Omicron and beyond) came about.
Unfortunately, too many people in power essentially weaponized it...
Well, except for those who become very sick and those who die from it. But
other than that, it’s so mild this time around.
Excellent post.
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Do you remember how long the hospitals kept asking about West Nile Virus?
…….only COVID removed it (by replacing it) years after the threat.
Such is hospital administration (and health center administration- esp on a college campus).
I doubt we will ever see a change until something bigger takes it over.
So our health is governed by health care bureaucrats. Great.
Even Australia won't mandate boosters to the under 30 crowd because of myocarditis.
Link: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/fourth-vaccine-dose-unlikely-to-be-approved-for-under30s-due-to-myocarditis-risk/news-story/a2da9fe71fa873f4e5aae0390625691d
Yes. Medicine is one of the MOST political professions given its central importance & $ involved.
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What happened to my body, my choice?
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That only applies to libs when babies are being killed.
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Abortion is not contagious. COVID is.
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Lots of things are contagious. No forced jabs. No required masks. My body, my choice.
When the DC elite says it's your body, your choice. By DC elite, I mean both parties.
Regardless of the vaccine though which is the science you wont acknowledge
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