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me to be a paid shill for some far left liberal organization. His “trustworthiness” is also a matter of record.
Further, if you pin him down, he will justify his moralities by claiming that it is justified by the number of people who agree with him (morality by majority).

If there is some further emetic post that he drops on this board that you find amazingly bad, assume that I have not seen it and let me know so that I can take a look. He earned the rare “ignore” in a way that one would expect from him, and in a way completely consistent with him also supporting Trudeau using threats and intimidation and penalty to punish those who do not cooperate with his political narrative. Fortunately, he lacks Trudeau’s power.

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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-protest-finances.html

frozen for disrupting the lives of all Canadians living in Ottawa for three weeks, with no end in sight...the action worked and the protesters' accounts were unfrozen...although Ms. Tamara Lich's adventure carried on with an appearance in a Canadian court (see link).

Hardly a violent fascist move on Trudeau's part...you're 'grab bagging' to fill a narrative...btw, was that H.S. speech delivered in Oregon?


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-protest-finances.html

First you support unconstitutional suppression of speech, then grooming, and now you are saying govt should be able to take away a person's right to feed their family if they support something that opposes the ruling class.

I guess Trump should have done the same thing to BLM supporters to stop the rioting?

You are probably the worst person I've ever had a conversation with.

blatant liar on the board, supports many types of perversion, and is 100% a groomer. He openly
brags about it. Those are his good points

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others would like to avoid the thousands/millions of others who say the same things I do...it's much easier for you to go after one individual than have to contend with what is typically a large majority of the population when it comes to issues like abortion, or same sex marriage, or sexuality education for children...I'm not going to give you that easy out...sorry about that...someone needs to maintain reality.

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not just for the playing of the game, but for all the joy and camaraderie if provides for so many for a lifetime. You've also shared the 'downs' you experienced which is courageous to say the least.

I wish you the best, especially on this Thanksgiving.

I read several when you started posting, and a random one every so often since then. None of them supported your point. You just post them to make it look like you have support.

If one of your links did support a point you were making, it was probably some terrible point, like "it is ok to groom children for sex at very early ages"...but your position on issues such as that are so horrible and inhuman, I felt no need to read those links.

I give you UNICEF...WHO...European Union in support of my position...all I get is 'Nedofthehill' and 'Jabbadoody6's personal opinions...I rest my case.

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that's how discussions/debates are supposed to work...i.e. PROVE that your view is the right one...without that, your 'Opinion' has no substance...

>Not sure what you're talking about wrt suppression of speech...feel free to elaborate...

>"Grooming" is a mindless trope

>The Canadian protestors were illegally obstructing other Canadians from carrying out their occupations and feeding their families by blocking all commerce through the city...this was not a 'costless' demonstration...so, Trudeaus's action...after 3 weeks of patient negotiating (that was rebuffed)...was non-violent and effective..."Disorder" was resolved with no one getting hurt.

>In the 2020 BLM riots, perpetrators were arrested and dealt with...just as insurrectionists, directed by Trump, are.

>I'll take your last comment as a compliment...given the source.

btw, you didn't answer the question of whether or not your H.S. speech was delivered in Oregon...must have been an oversight...care to respond now?

You want small children to have perverted behavior and mental illness normalized in their brains.

You're a sick piece of garbage. And a liar and fraud.

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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=107877

That was fun.

To be clear, you are saying it is hateful for me to be uncomfortable with my preschool aged child being taught about how men dress up in gaudy makeup and provocative women's clothing and then twerk in front of rooms full of people for money. Mind you that drag queens aren't Trans. They are men that dress up as charicatures of women.

Are you also saying that we should invite strippers into the classroom to talk about what they do, or are you a hateful fucking bigot?

You bastards keep glossing over the main point in the entire conversation: you are trying to hide all of this from parents. You are supporting policy that doesn't allow parents to opt out of sexual "education." You are supporting policy that says teachers and children can talk about sex and hide it from parents.

We can debate about the appropriate ages and types of conversations that teachers should be having with children, but to then suggest that these teachers can have secrets with their students..that is literally insane.

have been molested and has referred to that as being the [quote] positive results [unquote] of teaching first graders about masturbation in schools.

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yourselves to the real world experiences of millions of other people in this planet...most notably in European countries that are more developed on that topic than many in this country.

Instead of frantically running around with your hair on fire...stop for a moment and read what concerned parents are doing about this issue that is so important for our kids' healthy development...i.e. Sex and Sexuality Education throughout kids lives.

True adults spend time learning about such things...it is childish to close your mind to them and not seek out information that has been demonstrated to work very well...certainly better than what we're experiencing.

Note: I've posted other links which I doubt you've read that provide specific detail on how such Educational programs are conducted for ALL ages...don't be uninformed when you post.


Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/04/school-sex-education-grooming-protecting-kids/629556/

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dissuaded, and neither will I...

Link: https://youtu.be/iLWo8B1R0MY

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been fighting for safe and healthy children since 1953...they are undeniably committed to the best interests of children the world over...here is an excerpt from the linked UNICEF article that speaks to Sex/Sexuality education for kids...

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Effective sexuality education must start early in childhood, PRIOR TO SEXUAL DEBUT, and progress in an age-appropriate manner as
the child develops, like any other subject in the curricula.(15) (emphasis mine)
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I'm just a supportive messenger for an entire world of people who believe in age-appropriate sex education for children of all ages...read and learn.

Comments?


Link: https://www.unicef.org/eap/media/3686/file/Digital.pdf

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fellow alum, Mallory McMorrow tells the truth...my thoughts, exactly...

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLWo8B1R0MY

Ive been talking about govt collision with social media to censor information about the laptop, covid, the afghan withdrawal, etc. You said you agree with it.

Youre on the record as agreeing with policy allowing teachers to talk to 7 year olds about masturbation. If that's not grooming, I don't know what is.

There is a big difference between freezing a family's finances and arresting individuals for criminal activity. Mind you these weren't just truckers, they froze the accounts of people who donated to the truckers before the truckers had even implemented the strategy of blocking roadways. The two issues are not even in the same stratosphere. The closest thing that Trump did, and it was very disturbing, were the reports that feds were snatching rioters up in unmarked vehicles. All of these actions are the the actions of a fascist govt.

...Magor League CRIME FAMILIES. This isn't a global war of countries, but of gangsters engaged in a GANG WAR.

Guess who are the leaders of the cells, factions and crews.

They work for the cartels and syndicates.

I could lay it all out for you, but it's better if you discover these ugly truths so that you can debate me at another time.

E Pluribus Unum

any heavy equipment until you resolve the differences.

I don't play with the mesmerized.

The bottom line is paramount to this new America and it's time to put our money-making hats on. Forget that it lacks dignity or decorum. Money talks. The big lease that should pull in the big bucks is the naming rights to the White House. Hefty dollars for that choice piece of real estate. Think of it: Every time a newsman stands in front of the White House, the leasing rights buyer gets to hear the company name: "This is Brian Williams at the Walmart White House..." "This is Wolf Blitzer at the Miracle Gro® Rose Garden." Every corporation or billionaire will see dollar signs dancing in front of their bottom-line eyes!

This is a bonanza for our treasury. The Supreme Court has freed up our sense of propriety. Our democracy is for sale.

The Supreme Court may already be sold, but the naming rights are available.

Stay in your cocoon. I know who you are and where you live...maybe.

The game is larger than you will ever understand.

Go back to sleep, sheep.

rise in those who believe in 'Plutocracy' (Peter Theil)...primarily on the conservative side...big business, oligarchs, etc. have and always will be a challenge...BUT...in spite of it all, we in this country have passed laws against monopolization, etc. that thwarts such challenges to democracy...you're not acknowledging them at all.

If you really care, you'll seek out those who demonstrate such vision and support them instead of wringing your hands and giving up...

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what you've got...hopefully documented.

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to each of your claims...

>I believe that you and I have spoken before about "The Laptop"...until the FBI issues a report no conclusion regarding "Collision (sic)" with the media can be made...so there's no way I could 'agree' with anything in that regard. I've also expressed my opinion that no one knows who, or how many others had access to the data storage of the laptop...i.e. the "Chain of Custody" issue (btw, do you have any experience with the law?)

>Not sure what you mean when you mention "COVID" in this context...from what I've seen, the CDC, et al, has made it's position on COVID very clear all by itself..as for 'Afghanistan', etc...I fear you're wandering off
and losing your train of thought...

>re: Canada...there is indeed a "Big Difference" when a few hundred obstructionists grind the commerce of a million people to a halt for three weeks...Trudeau made a very good call...I totally agree with what he did.

It's apparent to me that you have no idea what "Fascism" entails...nor does it appear that you have any intent to learn...you are what you are...I know what to expect of you...meanwhile, thanks for the opportunities to get the truth out.

You were there. You don't get to just pretend this shit away.

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And then arrest them and drag them back when they escaped? Misinfo Czar Trump would freeze your bank accounts for spreading that type of disinformation.

And then he'd throw you in a camp for claiming positive results of teaching small children in the EU about sex without the disclaimer that child abuse is rampant over there.

14 days in quarantine as a result of concerns for the deadly COVID Delta variant, not unlike our state of Hawaii and many other countries around the world...once those folks completed the isolation period, they were free to go...meanwhile they were fed, had TV and air-conditioning, etc..only three people couldn't deal with it and were returned to the quarantine facility...not to prison...big deal.

Thousands of Europeans...administrators, teachers and parents have labored for decades to develop better ways of educating their kids on the topic of Sex & Sexuality...they have decided to help kids of all ages learn from experts in the field...and the results (much lower rates of teen pregnancies, STDs and child abuse) have been their reward...we need to learn how to do what others have been successful at.

Once again, the rates of child sexual abuse are much lower in those countries...I challenge you to produce documented evidence to the contrary...without such documentation you are simply a purveyor of 'Disinformation'...time to show us who you are.

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Link: https://human-rights-channel.coe.int/stop-child-sexual-abuse-in-sport-en.html

HUMAN RIGHTS COMMENT
Comprehensive sexuality education protects children and helps build a safer, inclusive society
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You are so full of hate, and so lacking in reason, you can't think straight...it's one thing to say you don't agree with another person's approach to a problem, but to outright accuse them of criminally participating in such behavior crosses the line...makes me think of another poster who did that.


Link: https://www.coe.int/en/web/commissioner/-/comprehensive-sexuality-education-protects-children-and-helps-build-a-safer-inclusive-society

You: EU countries allow teachers to teach 7 year olds about STDs, masturbation, and sex without parental consent.

You: The EU "has had positive results" by setting a standard that random adults can comfortablely talk to children about sex and hide these conversations from parents. Children can be taught to be comfortable when that happens.

Also you: I agree with the statistic you posted from that credible site that 1 in 5 European kids have been molested.

Groooooooooooooooooooossssssssss

before addressing your points, you need to understand that "Europe' is made up of several countries and not all of them act the same, however, most of those countries have agreed to fund a "Union" structure with several distinct missions...including 'Childhood Education', and a part of that involves programs that teach "Sex and Sexuality"...some countries pay no attention to this effort (e.g. the very conservative Catholic, Poland), while others (e.g. the more liberal, Netherlands) do.

It turns out that the Netherlands has excellent results when it comes to low rates of teenage pregnancies and STD infections compared to almost any other country in the world...which is a clear indication of more aware and more mature young adults...a very good outcome that everyone should want to see...and for decades they've begun their educational programs at a very young age...as emphasized in the link I provided...which again published your link.

Now, on to your misinformed and erroneous assertions...

>Please read the material I presented to you and then 'copy & paste' the section which you say has teachers addressing "masturbation" with 7 yr olds...pf course you won't find it, because it doesn't exist...and what also doesn't exist is any logic on your part...those 7 year olds are at least three to four grades away from puberty and could not possibly process such overt material...the whole concept of education...for any subject...is to make the teaching "Age Appropriate"...surely you can grasp that...and apply it to the subject of "Sex and Sexuality" (fingers crossed).

>The last part of your previous concern bleeds into your second...i.e. trusting teachers to do the right thing. Given that all accredited schools require their teachers to be "Certified" in the subjects they teach...English, Math, History, etc...they would need to be certified in Sex and Sexuality...again with 'Age Appropriate' lesson plans. Simply put, the vast majority of our teachers chose that profession because of their deep concern for the healthy development of children...so why would anyone not trust them in this subject, which is a vital one. Parents are already involved through PTAs, etc...and have input...but first, as in the European Union, there needs to be an appreciation of the need for "Age Appropriate" instruction...once that is established, and programs are reviewed, then "Trust" the teachers, while regularly reviewing the results, which already happens on every other subject.

>I agree that kids do get molested even in Europe, but not due to "Sex and Sexuality" education...which is why that same source you posted also promotes 'Comprehensive Sexuality Education' for all kids, so that they grow up understanding the need to respect others, etc...and...countries that embrace such learning (e.g. the Netherlands and Sweden) have excellent outcomes when it comes to sexual abuse of children...you got that?

Hopefully, you can also comprehend that the only reason I support "Sex and Sexuality" education for all kids, is that it has BEEN PROVEN to REDUCE the sexual abuse of children...and adults as they grow up. Unless you can prove otherwise, you are biting your own tail on this. , I

I see this disagreement as...(ME) believing that education of children on a vital subject to their development as well functioning adults is a good thing, and (YOU) wanting to keep those children from ever being exposed to the material in a caring, professional manner...thus leaving them to all the misinformation that is rampant all around them. btw, while many families do a good job in this area, it is abundantly clear that tens of millions of families are either incapable of doing the job, or are abusive themselves...in either case, society NEEDS schools to ensure every child is properly educated.

It appears that you just don't have enough faith in others, who have worked their whole lives for the betterment of children, that they will do the right thing...that's sad.

In short, I'm in support of those who are trying hard to help children...and any further slanderous suggestions by you that I am promoting abusive behavior will result in a call out from me...is that clear?

Canada is suffering under its leadership.

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It killed. I wish I could remember it.

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Link: I assume you trust the NY Times

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Did he also think that this Stark guy was me?

pointing out much of what you posted, and Tyrone would tattle on him

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He might be a bigger idiot than I'm giving him credit for.