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For NYT lockdown is bad only when China does it. The blatant hypocricy is reaching horrible level

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:36 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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I would never imagine.

NYT really can't say very much about why China's lockdown is bad except economy reason. Instead they say lockdown is out of date, treating lockdown like a fashionable thing. For the left media there is no truth. The reason they tell the truth today is because of another agenda they support. But they will contradict themselves tomorrow when the truth is no longer convenient.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/article/china-covid-protests.html

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Thread Level: 2

The United States never did anything like what China is doing

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:43 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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But pointing that out to you is pointless.

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US just fired people and took their licenses & thus livelihood. Not exactly good.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61184 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:21 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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If the US was half as bad as China, I'd have been disappeared in the first couple of months.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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I know there were cities that had stricter rules than I dealt with where I am, but I didn't exactly follow the rules of my local jurisdiction. Nobody arrested me. Worst I had to deal with was a couple of overzealous white women who, turns out, didn't actually believe in equality for women.

I'm with Chris on this one. I'm grateful for this country. I also appreciate the rest of you that are vigilant in making sure we don't turn into those commie bastards.


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The difference between US and China is contact tracing, not lockdown itself.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:45 am on Nov 29, 2022
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Lockdown is same in every country. Forbidden travel, closed public services, no park access no event...

What made China different from US and other countries is their ability to keep track of those who tested positive because of their advanced mobile technology that relies on scanning QR codes and an app. The goal is to curb the spread of the coronavirus by indicating who can go where.

But, what happened recently is Chinese lockdown protests. Chinese didn't protest contact tracing. What NYT talked about is lockdown, not contact tracing. We know NYT actually wants to implement Chinese style contact tracing. The left on this board all advocate contact tracing. Most rightists against it. But contact tracing is a different topic. Now the issue is lockdown. Again, there is not much difference on any lockdown.

I think you have no idea how strongly Chris supported lockdown and against reopen back then. Check the old posts.


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Totally ridiculous. AMericans were never told to stay in their homes.

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:15 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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Who is ridiculous here? Official lockdown name is Stay At Home Order.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:21 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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"To protect public health, I as State Public Health Officer and Director of the California Department of Public Health order all individuals living in the State of California to stay home or at their place of residence except as needed to maintain continuity of operations of the federal
critical infrastructure sectors"

Failed to enforce the order is a different issue. This is exactly the reason why you can't copy China's policy without considering your own country's culture, convention...different condition. Lockdown is Chinese invention if we consider modern society not ancient society. U.S. never had lockdown before Covid-19. All U.S. pre-covid pandemic policy has no lockdown. It is purely borrowed from China after seeing they shut down the spread of virus in Wuhan in February 2020 and got praise from WHO.


Link: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/03/19/governor-gavin-newsom-issues-stay-at-home-order/#:~:text=SACRAMENTO%20%E2%80%93%20Today%2C%20Governor%20Gavin%20Newsom,can%20also%20be%20found%20here.

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Let me introduce you to Governor Whitmer

Author: MuskyTommy (3974 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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Link: https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/news/2020/03/23/governor-whitmer-signs-stay-home-stay-safe-executive-order

Thread Level: 7

Recommendations to stay home are quite different from orders to stay home

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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Do a little googling about what the Chinese have done in the past two years and ask yourself whether it resembles your covid experience.

Spoiler alert: It doesn't.


Thread Level: 8

Bullshit. She tried to enforce it too. Local sheriffs rebelled.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61184 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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Even Ron DeSantis backed up his "Safer at Home" order with an enforcement provision...

Author: TyroneIrish (21771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:28 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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from the attached link...
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Florida

After weeks of criticism for inaction, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis instituted a “Safer at Home” order that goes into effect on April 3. State Attorney Dave Aronberg said that violators could be put in jail for up to 60 days, according to Fox 29.
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But in no way did any U.S. state or locality lock people in their homes by welding apartment doors shut like China has done...absolutely no comparison.


Link: https://people.com/health/how-states-are-enforcing-coronavirus-stay-at-home-orders/

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Your post says Americans were never told to stay at home. I live in Michigan and

Author: MuskyTommy (3974 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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we were. Could we go to jail for it no but Whitmer wanted us at home. The order directed residents to stay home unless you were essential.

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Go google the Chinese COVID policies. We'll wait.

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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Once again Im responding to your post. Yes the Chinese is different. Im Michigan we were directed to

Author: MuskyTommy (3974 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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stay home.

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You were advised to stay home. You were not ordered to.

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:45 pm on Nov 29, 2022
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Chris is a fascist, so I can imagine.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 10:16 am on Nov 29, 2022
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He is a democratic fascist. LOL. He would be mad if you miss the D word from his title.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:54 am on Nov 29, 2022
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Will Adam Silver speak out or does he only speak out against America?

Author: irishsmashmouth (3306 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 9:14 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Adam Silver is a distraction compared to Apple.

Author: Curly1918 (16825 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 7:40 am on Nov 29, 2022
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Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/ADVChina/comments/yqim6b/apples_latest_attempt_to_bootlick_china_to_help/

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Without mass protest here you guys would have done much longer lockdown. But the point is

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:59 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Your guys' hypocricy. You treat lockdown protesters as conspiracy theorists, right wing fascists and Trump supporters. Go back to read those left media's articles and recall how they demonized them. Here is one from NYT on lockdown protesters.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/us/politics/coronavirus-protests-trump.html

Thread Level: 4

Like I said. Pointless.

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Ok. Here is the Point. Is that clear?

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 am on Nov 29, 2022
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=585487

Thread Level: 6

Yes, that was totally serious, I do love lockdowns. All liberals do!

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:13 am on Nov 29, 2022
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That literally is the most honest thing you have ever said on this board. Good for you for finally

Author: TampaIrish (11804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:02 am on Nov 29, 2022
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admitting it.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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When do you think we’re going to hear from the great minds in the NBA about what is

Author: TampaIrish (11804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:55 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Going on in China? LeBron going to show up with another book “he just started” to tell us how bad the Chinese government is? How about Greg Popovich or Steve Kerr? I’m sure the MSM will ask them the next chance they get, right?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 4

Yeah, that’s important. Thanks for your contribution

Author: Chris94 (37248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Author: irishsmashmouth (3306 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 3:47 am on Nov 29, 2022
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You’re welcome. I know how much you love those NBA douche bags.

Author: TampaIrish (11804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Will the media, NBA, and celebs wear little China pins in support of the oppressed people?

Author: ELP (10024 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:03 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Calling Ben Stiller. The oppressed of China need your rear end there for support like you did for the Ukraine people. How 'bout it pal? Lebron, Steve Kerr, John Cenna. Your silence can be heard around the world.

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Are we going to see flags being changed from the Ukraine on profiles? I know it’s

Author: TampaIrish (11804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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Going to take a lot to get them off their Ukraine flag but I wonder if this could do it?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 6

They have many pins to wear. Ukraine, LGB, BLM, but never China.

Author: ELP (10024 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 11:02 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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They are in way too deep with China.

Thread Level: 3

We couldn't say goodbye to our grandparents.

Author: Cole (16284 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:53 pm on Nov 28, 2022
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