Check out Table 13b, titled "Covid deaths." Here are the facts:
From this three-week period in March, 4,067 people died of Covid, of which 3,647 received either their second or third dose of the vaccine more than 14 days prior. That comes out to 90.0% of all Covid deaths coming from fully-vaccinated people. However, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University, only 79.3% of the U.K.'s population has received even one dose (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/international), and according to the site Our World in Data, the percent who are fully-vaccinated is 75.4%.
Simple math tells us if the vaccines have efficacy, the percentage of the population dying from Covid has to be less than the percentage of the population that was vaccinated. That's not the case here. The percentage is actually greater, meaning (at least in the U.K.) a fully-vaccinated person is actually MORE likely to die from Covid than is an unvaccinated person.
Also, spare me the Reuters "fact" check. It is mathematically wrong, period, and besides that, it doesn't address the actual data. Finally, it's interesting that shortly after printing this damning data, the U.K. quit printing these tables in thier weekly surveillance reports. Gee, wonder why.
Link: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1066759/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-13.pdf
Definition of vaccine, not the new one.
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Now the term is casually tossed about but it defies the true definition.
A flu "shot" requires multiple injections and is not a vaccine.
Now the "new" CDC has re-defined the term "vaccine" to mean, once in a lifetime, every few years or multiple injections per year.
Immunization is the process of becoming protected against a disease. How that's accomplished is a semantical argument, apparently.
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Link: https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/why-vaccine-boosters.html
shot.
I wonder who changed that to just mean "shot" and not vaccine shot?
Link: I wonder what Merriam Webster says
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Here is what the OED has to say.
vac·cine
/vakˈsēn/
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noun
noun: vaccine; plural noun: vaccines
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
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Link: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254111268.html
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among the vaccinated population is skewed.
But I would not recommend asking an untrained, unlicensed pretender who has political goals. He and other liberals here will back the vaccine to the end - not because it is efficacious, but because it represents a political stake to them. Similarly, there are also many on the Right who will not accept the vaccine for the same reason.
One of the many indefensible actions of Anthony Fauci and Walensky et al was that they lied to the public and eroded the trust that once transcended politics. This was a vital and necessary trust that may now be unrecoverable.
If you have risk factors, get the vaccine and keep up on your boosters. But I would not recommend giving it to healthy, low risk children.
you could have made that your entire post...but no, you have to wax political and tend to your grudges...never want to waste an opportunity.
But your advice is incomplete...not every person who is vulnerable knows their risk status...and vaccine boosters do increase immunity from infection for all persons, thereby helping to stop the spread, so it makes sense for all approved age groups to get vaccinated and "keep up with their boosters"...what's also great is that the vaccines/boosters are incredibly safe, and they're free.
Now, getting to your grudges...it isn't "Ty" who's making the recommendations, Baron...all I do is post the expert medical opinions of those who actually devote their careers to Infectious Diseases, like COVID-19...hence the moniker "Link Boy" ;-)...unfortunately, too often you go out of your lane and take positions that are in opposition to those many thousands of experts and I point them out...you don't like that, and I suspect you get frustrated because I have such expert support very close at hand...but who knows for sure. What is sure is that you have been proven wrong...by experts...and I let everyone know about it...understandably, that irks you...sorry about that.
As for "Politics"...I just present medical opinions...with substantiation...and not in the context of 'Left vs. Right'...you on the other hand, taint virtually everything in the COVID arena as being politically motivated as opposed to what the CDC, NIH, FDA, etc. have been doing for many decades...i.e. looking out for the health of this nation. On a personal note, I can tell you and everyone else that our ID and ICU specialists work long hours on ONLY medical issues...not one moment or thought is wasted on politics...not quite what I'm seeing coming from you.
You know, the guy who has researched the studies more than anyone, including the Great Fauchino and anyone at the CDC and FDA?
the situation in the U.K. regarding vaccine efficacy for preventing death...because you fell for the "Base Rate Fallacy"...do yourself a favor and read up on that before you get confronted with another scam.
If you can find evidence 90% or fewer of Covid deaths are from the vaccinated while a greater percentage of the population is fully vaccinated, I'll read it.
Where is my vaccine?
recommends it. I know a lot of people vaccinated/boosted that got very sick from the virus. Several have had bad reactions from the boosters and quit taking it.
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I assume you are not trying to make yourself seem stupid.
answers rather than being fed them.
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from the Executive Summary...
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Vaccine effectiveness
Several studies of vaccine effectiveness (VE) have been conducted in the UK against different COVID-19 variants. Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the Omicron variant is substantially lower than against the Delta variant, with rapid waning. However, PROTECTION AGAINST HOSPITALIZATION REMAINS HIGH, PARTICULARLY AFTER 3 DOSES. (emphasis mine)
Population impact
The impact of the vaccination programme on the population is assessed by taking into account vaccine coverage, evidence on vaccine effectiveness and the latest COVID-19 disease surveillance indicators.
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and then, further down, you'll find this, along with a table I can't copy easily...
Effectiveness against mortality
High levels of protection (over 90%) are also seen against mortality with all 3 vaccines and against both the Alpha and Delta variants with relatively limited waning (6, 11, 12). Vaccine effectiveness against mortality with the Omicron variant has been estimated for those aged 50 years and older by combining the risk of becoming a symptomatic case with the risk of death among symptomatic cases in vaccinated (all vaccines combined) compared to unvaccinated individuals (Table 2). At 25-plus weeks following the second dose, vaccine effectiveness was around 60% while at 2 or more weeks FOLLOWING A BOOSTER VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS WAS 95% AGAINST MORTALITY. (emphasis mine)
Vaccine coverage tells us about the proportion of the population that have received one, 2 and 3 doses of COVID-19 vaccines. By 27 March 2022, the overall vaccine uptake in England for dose 1 was 69.5% and for dose 2 was 65.3%. Overall vaccine uptake in England in people with at least 3 doses was 50.9%. In line with the programme rollout, coverage is highest in the oldest age groups.
We present data on COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations and deaths by vaccination status. This raw data should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness as THE DATA DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT inherent biases present such as differences in risk, behaviour and testing in the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. (emphasis mine)
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The COVID-19 virus has mutated over time and the vaccines' effectiveness in preventing infection has waned because of them, but the vaccines' primary protection from hospitalization and death has remained high...thank God. No vaccines are perfect, especially when they are decidedly not universally received thus allowing more mutations.
Take a moment and review the example given in the 'Sub-Link' I provided earlier to understand how fundamental data can get mis-interpreted...that's what's happened with your interpretation.
The report Summary tells the story in a nutshell...vaccines are the way to go...including BOOSTERS...case closed.
the long term effects of the vaccine to one's health? 99% of the population that get covid will be fine. The elderly and those with pre-existing conditions unfortunately have to weigh the risk of dying compared to something happening from the vaccine down the road, so they have to be conservative and get the shot as their immune systems are already compromised. For everyone else, it doesn't make sense as once again, we now know the vaccine does not stop the infection nor stop the spread of the infection. I've told you this before, in my area, the hospital system does not even recommend the current covid vaccine updates because in the medical professionals own words, "They are not game changers." And for the record, I'm not anti-vaccine. Just feel it should be one's choice and people should not have lost jobs for refusing to get a vaccine that isn't all that good. What happened to my body my choice??
vaccines, there has never been a severe side effect emerge after six months of use...typically the limit is closer to six weeks. Also, there have been over 600 Million doses given in the U.S. and over 12 Billion throughout the world...no need to worry about "the future"....oh, and the side effects we have are extremely rare.
Next, there is no vaccine mandate...no one is being forced to get a shot...but since the vaccines are incredibly safe and effective at keeping people from being hospitalized or worse, and there are always people who don't realize they have risk factors...it's sensible to recommend that everyone in tested/approved age groups get vaccinated and boosted...plus, there's no cost to them.
Note that preliminary data on the new bi-valent booster shows a marked increase in protection against infection from the prevailing variants (see link below), so you should adjust your perception accordingly.
https://www.statnews.com/2022/11/22/data-show-updated-covid-19-boosters-increase-protection-against-infection/
This whole issue is super simple...when it comes to avoiding severe illness or death, getting vaccinated and boosted works way better than the alternative.
Link: https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/why-vaccine-boosters.html
So tell me why I need to get another booster which specifically covers what I already had.
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Link: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7148e1.htm
'mono-valent' vaccines, which were designed for the original or "Wild Type" version...back when they were introduced, they were 95% effective in blocking infection...BUT...as viruses are want to do, they mutated...especially in their 'Spike Protein' and making it easier for them to latch onto human cells (but not evade 'B' and 'T' killer cells)...lots more cases, but still very good protection from severe illness and death...as a consequence, the effectiveness in preventing infection has waned for those 'mono-variant' vaccines steadily. (check out the linked article for a deeper dive into variants).
Because of all those variants it's been tough to zero in on a new target for vaccines, but the recent 'Bi-Valent' version seems to be having significant success, so while no vaccine can be perfect against a fast changing opponent, we do the best we can, and this is it. Your choice is to either take the safe and costless bi-valent booster, or take your chances w/o it...most sensible people choose the former.
Best not to over think this...trust the people who's only job is to keep people as safe and healthy as possible...btw, they follow their own advice...I can personally vouch for a couple of them.
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/coronavirus-variant-tracker.html