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All you need to know about the Hunter Biden bullshit

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:44 am on Dec 6, 2022
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And it is bullshit.

Link: https://www.thebulwark.com/the-right-needs-hunter-biden/

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Let's be clear. This is JOE BIDEN bullshit. And you are embarrassing yourself right now.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Is it ok for a president to use the FBI to inform him of damaging stories, and then cover them up?

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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51 Intelligence experts (& you) said this was Russia disinformation...to protect Hunter's penis?

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:41 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Something tells me you are getting ahead of your skis on this, for partisan purposes, just like last time. You are not just trying to inform the unwashed masses.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I was expecting a know-it-all like you to expound, in your words. Lemme see if I can follow...

Author: fredyo (12582 Posts - Joined: Sep 7, 2009)

Posted at 12:55 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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...with this...

AOC: A Symbol of What is Wrong with Democrats
Story by Harrison Kass • Yesterday 10:33 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or AOC, had a moment recently worth examination.

Fighting for the Working Class?

The progressive icon, who I have often criticized as being more celebrity than legislator/more mainstream than progressive, retweeted a tweet from Senator Marco Rubio. “The railways and workers should go back and negotiate a deal that the workers, not just the union bosses, will accept,” Rubio tweeted. “I will not vote to impose a deal that doesn’t have the support of the rail workers.” AOC retweeted Rubio’s tweet, adding “glad we are on the same page [regarding] railworkers’ paid sick days.” The exchange speaks directly to the ongoing situation with railroad workers. (In which the Biden administration leaned on federal labor laws to avert a strike.) But the exchange also speaks more deeply to the fact that the two major parties are squaring off over the working class.

Democrats Lost the Working Class?

For a generation, guarding the working class was strictly within the purview of the left. The formula worked for all associated. The American working class was the envy of modern economies everywhere. In the U.S., the working class enjoyed wages and job security like nowhere else.

Working class ascension, is at the very heart of “The American Dream” after all. The arrangement was beneficial to the Democrats, too, who vigilantly guarded working-class interests; the Democrats, in turn, enjoyed a sizeable bloc of voters who, generally speaking, made DNC candidates viable.
But Democrats abandoned the formula, recalibrating to accommodate the interests of the professional-managerial class, allowing the New Deal to shrivel up and die, allowing the working class to shrivel up and die.

The result has been a working class that is amenable to Republican messaging. Indeed, much of the working class has migrated to the GOP. But the bloc remains contested – as the Rubio-AOC exchange contests. It seems both parties are capable of saying what the working class wants to hear. The question now will be whether they can provide what the working class needs. The railroad situation provides a test of mettle for those professing to uphold the interests of the working class, chief amongst them AOC.

The AOC Test

AOC has done an excellent job at marketing herself as a progressive, as the champion of workers everywhere. She often says or tweets the right thing. But when it comes time to actually vote, she wavers.

For example, when she first entered office, she vowed not to vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House – yet AOC promptly voted for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House. AOC vowed not to keep sending unconditional aid to Israel – yet AOC promptly voted to send more aid to Israel. Famously, she wore a “Tax the Rich” dress to the Met Gala. The irony behind the fact that she was wearing a custom dress to the Met Gala was jarring. The Republicans, who sense an opening, and are posturing (i.e., Rubio with his tweet) are a formidable threat to Democrats hoping to reclaim working-class trust. For one, Republicans dispense with all the woke nonsense, which Democrats have constructed their entire worldview around. Why that’s a problem for Democrats is that the woke worldview is very much an outgrowth of discrete academic curriculums and is accordingly a staple of the professional-managerial class – not the working class.

HR departments around the country espousing the woke worldview are in elite universities, left-leaning think tanks and corporations. Not working-class establishments. I don’t think DEI initiatives or racial commemoration months are a big priority with working-class cats, like, say, the railroad workers who are currently fighting for increased sick leave.

And second, the working class is wary of the left’s open-border talk. The working-class values protectionist trade policies – which have come to be more closely associated with the GOP. Open borders threaten the working class’s job security. At least, that’s what many believe. The political calculus remains the same: people will vote in their economic interests roughly every time.

Anyways, the race for the working class is on. The winner may well shape U.S. politics for the next generation.

Harrison Kass is the Senior Editor at 19FortyFive. An attorney, pilot, guitarist, and minor pro hockey player, he joined the US Air Force as a Pilot Trainee but was medically discharged. Harrison holds a BA from Lake Forest College, a JD from the University of Oregon, and an MA from New York University. He lives in Oregon and listens to Dokken.
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Keep on rockin' in the free world
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This whole thing can be synthesized down to two words..."Rudy Giuliani"

Author: TyroneIrish (20626 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:33 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Wait. I was told it was a GRU plant.

Author: Iggle (12629 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:29 am on Dec 6, 2022
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The science has changed.

Author: iairishcheeks (27322 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:05 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Must be nice to never have to admit you were wrong.

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It's Fluid.

Author: Frankx (5372 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 11:11 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Wait, so it wasn't the crackheads laptop? In your eyes, is it Russian disinformation?

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 am on Dec 6, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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What in the world happened to Mona Charen?

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:59 am on Dec 6, 2022
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I'll tell you what: TDS.

Ironic that she labels the pursuit of Hunter Biden to an attempt to assuage guilt.


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Well, it's not and you know it's not.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 8:43 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Twitter wasn't the only platform that suppressed the truth. The media, en masse, pitched a false story to the American public and there need to be consequences for that.

It's so frustrating how short sighted people are. At some point a Republican will figure out how to leverage the machine for his gain (he won't be as nice), and it will be because idiots like you couldn't pull their heads out of their asses long enough to see what was happening.


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Totally. Keep on rockin.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Lazy!

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 10:01 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Not lazy. Apathetic.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:10 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Nothing anyone says will put a dent in the tribalism.

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What if you humored me though?

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 10:18 am on Dec 6, 2022
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This is pretty cut and dry to me. I don't think we want to live in a world where the media...I'll use the term 'en masse' again...is making decisions for us about what news they should and should not report on based on how it will potentially affect an election.

I can accept that the Biden laptop is much ado about nothing. I have very little interest in it. The more relevant part of this discussion is how the media handled this story. Isn't it in this country's best interest to have trustworthy news sources?


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I do not believe that the media is, on the whole, dishonest

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:22 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Since that is an argument that will never penetrate the defenses of the dumbfuckosphere, there is no point in engaging much.

I think the media is actually run by men and women who try to get to the truth. There are plenty of exceptions...but in general, the professionals do not suppress stories.

So this is all garbage. Maybe mistakes were made, I dunno, but there was no conspiracy.


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They sure fooled you on the BYU/Duke race claim. You fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:51 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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And this is the next point I would make. Someone recently posted an entire list

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 1:08 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Of all of the things that the media has gotten wrong in the last few years. These were failures, just like the failure Musky points out here. Chris, you think it's not dishonesty, fair enough, but it's certainly more incompetence.

Don't be lazy and blame my concerns on tribalism. If you think I'm being tribal, it's because it's the lense by which you view the world, not me. This is a problem. If it's not dishonesty, what is broken in the system that is resulting in these large scale failures by the media?


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Sure, you're above all that! Just so happens that all your posts are in one direction. Got it.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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You lazy bastard. You took the easy way out.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 1:39 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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I'm not here to convince you of my political leanings, I'm trying to take the politics out of this topic. This is wide spread, large scale incompetence, and you are making it about politics.

You excuse the Biden laptop away as a one-off, but there is example after example of the problem. If it's not dishonesty and it's not bias, it's incompetence.

You seem to be arguing that there is nothing wrong with this level of incompetence.


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"I'm trying to take the politics out of this topic." Got a good laugh at that one.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Why?

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 3:48 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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There are no politics in the statement, "the media was incompetent in their handling of the Biden laptop story." You haven't disagreed with that sentiment. Where are the politics?

What if I said, the incompetence of the GWB White House led us into an unnecessary war and there should be consequences for that so that shit doesn't happen again? Is that really a statement that should be considered partisan? What is the core difference between those two scenarios? This shit is bad no matter what box you like to categorize yourself in.

I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't just an idiot like Tyrone and this is the best you can do.


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But they were wrong in this instance.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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There really isn't a debate in that. They reported it didn't exist, it did. They reported it was Russian disinformation, it wasn't. This happened on a large scale.

So your claim is that it was large scale incompetence, rather than dishonesty. And that Fox News was the only outlets that wasn't incompetent?

I think you are discounting bias in a way that you wouldn't, and shouldn't, if it came from Fox News.

This was an aggregious failure. I'm not confident that it is the last time it will happen either. You are?


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Wow. Truly amazing. Not shocking with how wrong you are consistently.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:27 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Nothing anyone says will put a dent in his tribalism.

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:50 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I rest my case.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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Too funny. Year after year of bullshit from the MSM and you feel

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:41 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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They are honest. You, sir, are a fucking idiot.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Journalism + Politics + Social Media = Gaslighting.

Author: iairishcheeks (27322 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:14 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Nearly impossible to figure out what is real these days.

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Yes, the R party and the GOP have stayed away from misleading the crowd with disinformation

Author: jimbasil (52695 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:11 am on Dec 6, 2022
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campaigns, have never gerrymandered voting precincts, used dirty tactics in politics for leverage, don't have a voice in MSM, they
don't lie to their constituents, they have been up front and transparent on all things you complain about.

But unfortunately, R's and their elected officials keep going to jail, or moved from office for exactly those reasons all the time.
The revolving door of Trump's cabinet and admin should have been proof enough for you, but obviously not.

Oh well!


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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What's your point, Jim?

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 9:19 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Are you seriously arguing that any of this is acceptable?

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Any of what is acceptable?

Author: jimbasil (52695 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:31 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I'll bet you get lost in most grocery stores.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 10:02 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Your rage is noted!

Author: jimbasil (52695 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:04 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You're such a dumbass.

Author: jabbadoody6 (474 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 10:20 am on Dec 6, 2022
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It's Dookie Rage. Do you seriously not remember people not referring to it as 'Dookie Rage?'

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You really should take his behavior as a compliment.

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:52 pm on Dec 6, 2022
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He's knows he's been caught out. That's when he starts acting this way.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Sure, Stark, noted!

Author: jimbasil (52695 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:48 am on Dec 6, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Pierre Omidyar funds The Bulwark (which Chris linked). He's a typical Leftist and

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:40 am on Dec 6, 2022
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idiots like Bill Kristol suck at his teat.

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It's not about Hunter,,, just like Watergate was not about the plumbers.

Author: Curly1918 (16482 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 7:52 am on Dec 6, 2022
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It's about taking down an unpopular President in tough times.

If we drop into another 70's recession the Dems will be out for Biden as well.

Some already seem like they are.

The Republicans might be better off leaving King Lear to babble and drool by himself.


Link: https://allthatsinteresting.com/watergate-plumbers

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