Trump just makes me sick. The whole Helsinki tape is the most disgusting display by a POTUS that has ever been.
How he wasn't impeached after that I'll never understand - And grossly, how any American could ever support
DJT after that is astounding.
The paces Putin puts US presidents through are clearly marked for all to see in the Fontline piece from Clinton
to today. Clinton did have the best sense of Putin's character as we see now with Biden. All the others just didn't get it.
Obama should have been far stronger and more involved in the Crimea invasion but Trump turns out to be
as we all knew in 2016 and now - a Russian asset.
With Ukraine, NATO and the US need to supply them with long range capabilities. Armament that is capable of
reaching Moscow and all military bases in Russia. I'm not saying to just use them but to supply them with the
capability.
Made the Russians paranoid and nuts.
Totally disagree about giving the Ukrainians the ability to hit deep into Russia. Our main interest here - by far - remains seeing that this does not escalate.
He did it because he knew and knows no one in the west has an appetite for war with Russia.
or has the balls to really do anything about it.
If there isn't a deterrent to stop Putin from indiscriminately shelling deep inside Ukraine, then he will
continue to do so until there is nothing left to blowup. If Ukrainians have the ability to hit deep inside
Russia they will stop. If it doesn't stop them from missile launches deep inside Ukraine then it's time
to send missiles into Russia. Escalating isn't the issue. If it is, then that is what Putin is doing now,
escalating, just at a slow pace. We're just getting inured to these increments of escalation and are not
seeing it for what it is.
Obama was wrong for not helping stop the invasion of Crimea. And a full year invasion of the
Ukrainians is what we are seeing now because the US and NATO didn't react in 2014
Doesn’t take the responsibility off Putin.
9/11 made us nuts, but the stupid invasion of Iraq was Bush’s fault.
NATO expansion made Russia nuts, but the stupid invasion of Ukraine was Putin’s fault.
Not remotely the same thing as "expansion" which isn't the NATO fault rather it's countries knowing that, that is
better than being constantly under Russian rule.
I think the PBS piece clearly explains Putin being a KGB agent totally conditioned to believe the USSR was
almighty. Russians liked capitalism when it works, they as a country were not being made nuts by western
growth in neighboring countries. Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were always wanting release from the soviet shadow.
Sweden, Norway and Finland were never happy with the soviet hammer and Putin proved them right in the
invasion of Ukraine. The Chechen's wanted their own control.
The only person I see as nuts was Putin and the dislike of the old soviet system by neighboring countries is all
that happened. NATO officials didn't say, you're either with the Russians or you're with us. All Putin did was manage
to change the narrative in Russia over the last 20 + years to call the West and Capitalism evil and lie to the Russian
people that the West hates Russia. After awhile, it worked. A lot like Trump's control of the red-necked dingbats
here in the US.
And yes, the Iraq invasion was W's fault and his whole admin. They clearly helped underline Putin's false narrative
of the US and NATO. But it wasn't NATO expansion that made Putin nuts. It's his ego, conditioning and greed
that has made him invade Ukraine.
The sad truth is, NATO and the US will end up having to supply and employ long range and more effective armament
to the Ukrainians sooner or later or give up the entire enterprise of trying to arm their armies to hold off Putin.
I say we should have done so immediately (and I did say so).
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Link: https://youtu.be/Ee4PfhogtdQ
He's terrified of a world that differs from his own perspective and that he cannot control absolutely.
Having a democratic free enterprise system nation on on his border scared him to death.
His own people would start clamoring for the better life.
He also wiinessed what happened to all the other communist disctators in Eastern Europe after the fall of the iron curtain and in his heart he knows that this is his future.
Nobody wants to live under communist repression!
If we are patient his regime will crumble from within... juist like the old Soviet Union.
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has ever been"
I guess you can't read either - But then, we know this already.
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Interesting questions.
he didn't "sell out" Ukraine.
Link: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/29/biden-nord-stream-2-insurance-sanctions-protecting-us-firms/
To answer your first question - Biden didn't give Putin his oil pipeline - It was already nearing completion when he lifted US sanctions, as the US
sanctions only slowed the construction of the pipeline and the US didn't have the ability to stop it from its completion. It wasn't a gift but it was a
sign that the US had enough of it. Though he said he would do everything he could to stop the pipeline, it was well on its way to completion.
Biden didn't refuse to help Ukraine prior to the invasion. Policy in place was from decades of poor policy planning by W, Obama, Trump (if any
policy he knew about - more likely he did everything he could to weaken US ties there.) which were continued in the early part of Biden
administration. Your take on it is off the mark and only a Trumpian MAGA hat wearer would conclude that.
when Biden was simultaneously cutting out his own country’s pipeline? Your excuse is a pathetic spin since they wouldn’t have the tech & knowledge to be able to complete it for years without our US engineers help, and a “mostly completed pipeline anyways” is still completely nonfunctional regardless of how close to completion it is.
Biden absolutely refused to give arms to Ukraine despite Zelensky’s pleading as Putin began to amass troops on the border for months. You can’t blame Trump or anyone else. Biden chose to appease Putin which only emboldened Putin more (or should I accuse him of being in Putin’s back pocket as you have done to Trump).
US pulling back on sanctions did not help them finish with pipeline.
I believe the story went like this. Biden wanted Zelinski to remove the corrupt politicians (backed by Putin)
in order to receive the weapons he eventually gave to them. You all called it quid pro quo in the likes of
trump wanting dirt on Biden and a public conformation of the dirt. You have a bad memory.
After the invasion began, Ukraine wanted advanced missile systems which Biden didn't give because
he didn't want to escalate into a nuclear war which Putin had already put on the table.
You seem to twist facts to win an argument. You are a douchebag and your posts are pathetic.
to complete it for several years without us, and not at all if he decided to invade.
Thus, Biden facilitated Putin’s invasion.
Boom.
And wtf did Biden help him? And doesn’t it hurt Climate Change which was the reason Biden used to shut down our own Keystone Pipeline?
Looks like the guy secretly aiding Putin was Biden.
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