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Historic Perspective on Inflation

Author: OCIrish (1850 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:44 am on Jan 26, 2024
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There was high inflation in the 1980s, which carried over from the late 1970s. It peaked in March 1980 (at 14.8%) and was decreasing by the time Reagan took office. From the peak month (3/1980) to the following year end (1981), the rate decreased by 40%. At the end of 1982, the Fed Rate was 8.5% and unemployment was still increasing, ending the year at 10.8%.

Fast forward to the post-COVID global inflation: The inflation rate peaked in June 2022 (at 9.1%) and consistently decreased each month thereafter. From the peak month (6/2022) to the following year end (2023), the rate decreased by 63%. At the end of 2023, the Fed Rate was 5.5% and unemployment rate never increased and, in fact, decreased to 3.7%.

So in summary: the inflation rate decreased at a a slower rate in the 1980s, whereas the borrowing rate and unemployment rate, which are trailing indicators, had a much higher borrowing rate in the 1980s and high unemployment in the 2020s was entirely avoided. So to the right-wing ilk on this platform, in comparing Biden to their hero (Reagan) the impact of global inflations appears to be better managed by Biden.


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Thread Level: 2

Running the first 2 Trillion $ deficit is inflation control?? What a joke......

Author: lmcdonald (1276 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2020)

Posted at 7:54 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-s-budget-deficit-soars-to-2-trillion-showing-alarming-rise-in-1-year/ss-BB1hj1Pp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a1537d7d6abf403abe96012afbf56c66&ei=72

Thread Level: 2

Reasonable people may disagree with your assessment.

Author: Hensou (8171 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Link: https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-setting-the-record-straight-on-bidenomics

Thread Level: 3

Your link is BS. Disproving the first point.

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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When Trump took office in January 2017, the U.S. had 145.6 million nonfarm jobs, the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ standard measurement for job counting. After Trump’s first 30 months — the same number of months that Biden has been in office — the number of jobs had risen to 150.8 million.

That’s an increase of about 5.2 million jobs, or a bit higher than the 4.9 million Trump described in South Carolina.

Using this methodology, Trump was much further off base with Biden’s numbers.

When Biden took office in January 2021, the U.S had almost 143 million nonfarm jobs. By Biden’s 30th month in office — June 2023 — the number of nonfarm jobs had risen to 156.2 million.

That’s an increase of 13.2 million jobs, or more than six times as big as the 2.1 million jobs Trump referenced in his speech.


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Thread Level: 4

You disproved nothing. But you are a zealot and it's a waste of time to argue with you.

Author: Hensou (8171 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:30 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Just say the Dems are always right and the Reps are always wrong.

Throw in some TDS gorgonzola and some pejoratives and be done with it.

NoCal has figured out how to be OC Lite.

He posts the same crap more succinctly.

You didn't read what I posted,

You refuted nothing.

BTW I'm not a Republican.


Thread Level: 5

Now that is irony. Hensou calling someone a zealot.

Author: OCIrish (1850 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 am on Jan 27, 2024
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Correction, I directly disproved it. Just because you're emotional about it doesn't make it not true

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:47 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 6

False. You didn’t read the report. You disproved nothing.

Author: Hensou (8171 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 5:26 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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The issue is the voter is mad at higher prices and want to blame the government versus companies.

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 12:39 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

Is your inference that 'companies' drive inflation?

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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It's my inference that companies have taken advantage of inflation. It's a fact.

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Have prices come down 6% like inflation did?

Thread Level: 2

No debts comparison. Debts is not a variable in economy. Typical MMT apologist's mindset.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:33 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

Testify!

Author: conorlarkin (21068 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/icegif-337.gif

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Biden couldn't manage a pizza party

Author: cubsfanin16 (5502 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Insightful but the OP still dropped truth bombs all over the place.

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 12:39 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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It did not decrease by 63%. This is a statistical thought crime.

Author: Iggle (12640 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 11:54 am on Jan 26, 2024
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Prices today are 18% higher than when Biden took over. They will be 22% higher by the time we finally unload him in Jan of 2025.

If you paid $100 for something on inauguration day, you are paying $118 now. And you will be paying $122 on the next inauguration day. Even if inflation holds at 3% going Forward.


Thread Level: 3

Your Logic is Economically and Intellectually FLAWED

Author: OCIrish (1850 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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At the end of 2024, employee pay rates were up 4.8%, whereas inflation increased by 3.4%. So in real dollars, that is a net reduction of almost 1.5%.

Guessing you never studied Economics.


Thread Level: 4

LOL! Sure sure. I never studied economics.

Author: Iggle (12640 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Moron.

Thread Level: 3

Quest does not understand basic math.

Author: PaND (2731 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 1:03 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

You continue to display your HOF posting skills. A true asset to the board.

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 1:30 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

Finally, you say something truthful. Unless you are lying again.

Author: Hensou (8171 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:08 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

Where did you get this statistic from?

Author: Quest4twelve (6753 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

The CPI tables. Look them up. BLS web site.

Author: Iggle (12640 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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I can help you with the math if you ask nicely.

Thread Level: 3

Current inflation is Global...caused by COVID interruptions of Supply Chains plus Putin's War...

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:21 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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...and the U.S. is handling it very well.

Link: https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-bb8b-4ff3-9df7-a7680d4d81b2...

Thread Level: 4

Clueless.

Author: PaND (2731 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 1:02 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

YES … you are CLUELESS

Author: OCIrish (1850 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Thread Level: 6

No need to take him seriously, OC...Hades will freeze over before he makes a cogent

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:41 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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argument.

Thread Level: 7

This is hilarious. No one, including the libs here, takes you seriously.

Author: Hensou (8171 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:44 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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I like others here have caught you in many lies.

Author: PaND (2731 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Jan 26, 2024
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Compare it historically with Trump’s years. When something is ugly, you always want to look at it

Author: BaronVonZemo (60130 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:52 am on Jan 26, 2024
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from further back. “Joe’s not too much worse than Jimmy Carter”.

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