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"High-profile Republicans head for the exits amid House GOP dysfunction"...

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:59 am on Feb 19, 2024
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....from the attached article...
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And Rep. Carlos Gimenez of Florida, an ally of deposed former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, said this is not how he or many of his colleagues imagined life in the majority, saying, “I thought that some of our members would be smarter.”

“A lot of us are frustrated with what’s going on, and that’s just being flat-out honest,” he told CNN. “It’s foolish. And it’s been proven to be foolish. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”

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Something's not right in today's GOP...yet the answer is staring them in the face...as Judge Michael Luttig put it...they just need to grow a spine and rid themselves of Donald Trump.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/19/politics/republicans-retiring-house/index.html

Replies to: "High-profile Republicans head for the exits amid House GOP dysfunction"...


Thread Level: 2

so cnn, of all networks, finds some unknown rino to quote as their source. well, pilgrim.....

Author: und67 (6804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:41 am on Feb 19, 2024
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here are a few real endorsements that aren't from cnn's cartoon collection.

Link: real people, smart people

msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
Thread Level: 3

Am I to believe that the current GOP is a 'well-oiled' machine ready to enact legislation that will

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:55 am on Feb 19, 2024
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address the many challenges that face American citizens?

And as for you...what makes you look away from DJT's innumerable frauds, sexual assaults, insurrection and fealty toward an avowed enemy of the United States...i.e. Vladimir Putin?


Thread Level: 4

as you are certainly aware, every one of your allegations are facets of

Author: und67 (6804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:40 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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disinformation, lawfare at its core, and election interference - all out of fear your far left agenda will hopefully be dismantled.

god help us all if you're able to rig another "win" for freak nation.


msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
Thread Level: 5

I'm hearing a lot of innuendo from you...care to be more specific and cite examples that we can

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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discuss...and verify?...such as the claim of a "Stolen Election" which none other than FOX Corp recognized as false...

If you truly believe in what you allude to, stand up and be counted...what exactly do you see as "disinformation" on my and others' part?


Thread Level: 4

HR 2 was passed in May. Senate has not voted on it.

Author: PaND (2727 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 12:39 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

How do we measure the efficiency of passing legislation?

Author: iairishcheeks (27323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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Is it the speed at which it is passed with minimal debate?
Is it the quantity of pages of legislation passed in a congressional session?
Is it the total sum of American dollars spent?
Is it the total effect on the governed?

A rhetorical question related to your "well-oiled machine". I don't think I want to be governed by a "well-oiled machine".


Thread Level: 5

By any measure, the current Congress stands out for its inaction...and it's not because there

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:38 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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aren't problems to be resolved with legislation.

Link: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/statistics

Thread Level: 6

That doesn't answer the question.

Author: iairishcheeks (27323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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You described a "well-oiled machine", what do you mean by that? Describe the ideal state.

Also, inaction is better than action that turns out to be ineffectual, overly expensive or detrimental.

As a philosophy, I would prefer that we spent some time getting rid of outdated and/or detrimental laws. Take the tax code for example, I think we'd be better off scrapping the whole thing and starting fresh. Because, that would make it much more efficient and effective.


Thread Level: 7

I'm surprised you have difficulty recognizing a 'figure of speech', Cheeks...if you insist on being

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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spoon-fed, I'm using that phrase to highlight the inability of our current House leadership to enact even a small fraction of legislation that virtually every other Congress has produced...some beneficial...some not...but at least with the goal of making progress...all because of the ineptitude - as stated by Republican legislators leaving for the exits - that exists in their party.

Of course, the very important issues of Immigration and aid to foreign nations facing attack come quickly to mind when considering the effectiveness of this GOP lead Congress.


Thread Level: 8

Words matter, Tyrone, please be more careful in the future.

Author: iairishcheeks (27323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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Thread Level: 9

Back to the essence of this thread….the GOP House is so poor at doing its job

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:46 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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that leading members are frustrated and they’ve decided to leave in large numbers. That’s a clear signal to the electorate they can’t be relied upon…that matters.

Thread Level: 10

IMO, McCarthy was the opportunity to have a functioning body.

Author: iairishcheeks (27323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:32 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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The Dems could have saved him and had an opportunity to compromise. That ship has sailed, so it is what it is. Whining never solved any problem that I'm aware of.

Thread Level: 11

You didn't really delve into why the Dems wouldn't come to McCarthy's aid...did you.

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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here's an excerpt from a major D.C. news outlet...
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...immediately after the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, McCarthy blamed President Donald Trump and called for an independent commission to investigate, only to throw his support behind Trump after he left office and to oppose a deep investigation.

“He has brought chaos to the House, and he’s saying keeping him in that position is how we solve that problem? That’s an argument that just isn’t selling,” said Rep. Adam Smith of Washington state, the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee and co-author of a Pentagon policy bill that won the panel’s approval 58-1.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) cited that legislation as a key example of McCarthy’s deceit. Rather than advance such a bill with broad support, he caved to a few hard-right Republicans and loaded the legislation up with culture-war policy riders that passed on a narrow partisan vote.

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The GOP House of Horrors is totally due to their own ineptitude...the Dems had nothing at all to do with it...


Thread Level: 12

I don't think you quite grasp the concept of compromise.

Author: iairishcheeks (27323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:30 pm on Feb 19, 2024
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Thread Level: 13

You realize I had nothing to do with it, right? ;-)…as I’ve shown you, McCarthy didn’t earn

Author: TyroneIrish (20631 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:49 am on Feb 20, 2024
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the trust needed for Dems to support him…it would be like the proverbial frog taking the scorpion across the river.

Bottom line…today’s GOP is a functional disaster.


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