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From The Art of the Deal... tactics for ending the Ukraine War in 24 hours?

Author: Curly1918 (16495 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:01 am on Mar 13, 2024
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1. Think big "I like thinking big. I always have. To me it's very simple: if you're going to be thinking anyway, you might as well think big."

2. Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself. "I always go into the deal anticipating the worst. If you plan for the worst--if you can live with the worst--the good will always take care of itself."

3. Maximize the options: "I never get too attached to one deal or one approach...I keep a lot of balls in the air, because most deals fall out, no matter how promising they seem at first."

4. Know your market: "I like to think that I have that instinct. That's why I don't hire a lot of number-crunchers, and I don't trust fancy marketing surveys. I do my own surveys and draw my own conclusions."

5. Use your leverage: "The worst thing you can possibly do in a deal is seem desperate to make it. That makes the other guy smell blood, and then you're dead."

6. Enhance your location: "Perhaps the most misunderstood concept in all of real estate is that the key to success is location, location, location...First of all, you don't necessarily need the best location. What you need is the best deal."

7. Get the word out: "One thing I've learned about the press is that they're always hungry for a good story, and the more sensational the better...The point is that if you are a little different, a little outrageous, or if you do things that are bold or controversial, the press is going to write about you."

8. Fight back: "In most cases I'm very easy to get along with. I'm very good to people who are good to me. But when people treat me badly or unfairly or try to take advantage of me, my general attitude, all my life, has been to fight back very hard."

9. Deliver the goods: "You can't con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you don't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on."

10. Contain the costs: "I believe in spending what you have to. But I also believe in not spending more than you should."

11. Have fun: "Money was never a big motivation for me, except as a way to keep score. The real excitement is playing the game."

Funny thing is... I don't see immediate capitulation on the list at all... and if Putin treats him badly, does #8 apply?


Link: https://www.inc.com/peter-economy/11-winning-negotiation-tactics-from-trump-s-art-of-the-deal.html

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Replies to: From The Art of the Deal... tactics for ending the Ukraine War in 24 hours?


Thread Level: 2

The Ukraine War would never happen if Trump were in office.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:06 am on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

Correct, Orange would have given Putin all he wanted of it.

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:41 am on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

Obama told Putin that he would have more flexibility after the election, and Putin took Crimea.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:57 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

And that is responsive, how?

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

Trump is a lot smarter and more competent than liberals think

Author: MarkHarman (7310 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 am on Mar 13, 2024
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Doesn't change the fact he's not a great guy, but I'd rather have a guy like that on our team than having to oppose him.

Thread Level: 3

Really, like his tariffs, debt bloating, blackmail of Ukraine, failure to pass healthcare or

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:51 am on Mar 13, 2024
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infrastructure, his stock buy back tax cut to billionaires that further deprived the treasury of revenue, his having a white supremacist dine with him, his saying COVID would just go away, his love of Putin and other autocrats, his Muslim ban, his trying to illegally overturn an election, his concealing and lying about classified documents, his banging a porn star bareback while Mel’s was postpartum and paying her off, his ability to get an extra 83 million tacked on to what he has to pay E Jean cause he couldn’t keep his yap shut after getting hit with a 5 mill defamation judgment, , yeah he is just one smart mo fo

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Thread Level: 4

He kept Russia at bay for 4 years, which is indisputably more than O'Biden can say.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

At bay? Bwahahaha. He was doing their work for them with NATO.

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:36 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

What exactly makes Trump smart? Jeff Bezos smart, Elon Musk smart, but a clown.

Author: Quest4twelve (6764 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:17 am on Mar 13, 2024
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Name some things about Trump.

Thread Level: 4

Trump was smart to say Europe should pony up more for defense. Had it done so, the invasion

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:59 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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may have never happened.

Now the West can't keep up with Putin's munition production. Go figure. Maybe Trump was right.


Thread Level: 2

"Ukraine is struggling not just with ammunition but also growing manpower shortages on the front

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:24 am on Mar 13, 2024
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lines" - CNN

Military analysts say the war will likely be won or lost based on who fires the most artillery shells.

“The number one issue that we’re watching right now is the munitions,” the NATO official said. “It’s those artillery shells, because that’s where Russia really [is] mounting a significant production advantage and mounting a significant advantage on the battlefield.” Russia is running artillery factories “24/7” on rotating 12-hour shifts, the NATO official said. About 3.5 million Russians now work in the defense sector, up from somewhere between 2 and 2.5 million before the war. Russia is also importing ammunition: Iran sent at least 300,000 artillery shells last year — “probably more than that,” the official said — and North Korea provided at least 6,700 containers of ammunition carrying millions of shells.

Russia has “put everything they have in the game,” the intelligence official said. “Their war machine works in full gear.”

Russia is producing about 250,000 artillery munitions per month, or about 3 million a year, according to NATO intelligence estimates of Russian defense production shared with CNN, as well as sources familiar with Western efforts to arm Ukraine. Collectively, the US and Europe have the capacity to generate only about 1.2 million munitions annually to send to Kyiv, a senior European intelligence official told CNN.
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That's all from CNN. As it stands, Trump can approve the $60b and Ukraine will still lose. It's very clear that Biden and Co. were very unserious about this war and had no plan to win it. Even you have to admit that.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html

Thread Level: 3

Your wet dream.

Author: Curly1918 (16495 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:45 am on Mar 13, 2024
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Then the Baltic states and Poland?

As Putin says... why bothewr with negotiations.

Hell... if he threatens to nuke us... better red than dead! No?


Link: https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1767824155108311284

Thread Level: 4

Biden doesn't enforce sanctions, and the West is behind munition production 4 to 1, with no solution

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:35 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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in sight. It's not Trump who is unserious about this war. It has always been Joe Biden who thought he could hurt Putin and but actually had no plan to help Ukraine win the war except fight to the death of the last Ukrainian.

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Thread Level: 4

He thinks that the West in general and the U.S. in particular are weak and won’t keep their

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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commitments. He may be right. I haven’t even heard a commitment from you that you won’t be voting for the Orange toad despite posts like these.

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Thread Level: 5

The West is weak. And therefore it should have never committed to this war.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 6

The west is weak? Now, that’s a bold face lie…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:02 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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If Putin attacks a NATO country, he knows he wouldn’t stand a chance against the US and the other NATO countries. His only option to level the playing field would be to use nukes and that would ensure his demise. You’re a Russia sycophant. Fucking traitor

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Thread Level: 7

Then why haven't we mobilized our munition production for the last 2 years? Why are we well behind

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Russia on munition production?

Why isn't the West enforcing sanctions on Russian oil?

I thought we were strong?


Thread Level: 8

Hey dumbass…we’re not at war…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:27 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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We are supporting a country that is at war. Big difference.

Also, you’re so focused on Russia’s production of munitions, but you fail to acknowledge other important details about the war. I’ve mentioned them in other threads…Manpower, morale, sub-par equipment, resources, will of the people….

Sanctions work sometimes. In the case of Russian oil…when there are willing participants that buy Russian oil, it’s almost impossible to enforce that. Example…China buys some Russian oil.


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Thread Level: 9

Yes, you're right. We're like a GF who tells their BF to go fight the neighborhood bully as we sit

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:42 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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powerless to defend our BF when he gets punched in the mouth. This is not the position we should be in. It was a stupid war that we asked Ukraine to fight for us.

Thread Level: 10

Again, you’re a dumb ass…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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We didn’t ask Russia to invade the Ukraine and we didn’t ask the Ukraine to fight back. Your position is a position of weakness. If we didn’t support the Ukraine, they’d still be fighting. It’s in our national interest to help the Ukraine. Seems you, Eli and the Trump sycophants in congress are the only ones that don’t agree.

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Thread Level: 11

We put 14 CIA bases in Ukraine, gave it sophisticated Western weapons, stationed biological

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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weapon research labs in Ukraine, and pushed it to be part of NATO, thereby allowing us to station missiles within 7 minutes of Moscow. Putin said enough and offered a peace deal that would contain a neutrality guarantee. When we rejected it, he invaded, just like we would have done.

Stop fighting the Cold War. Stop trying to Westernize countries that have no business being part of our alliance. We had no strategic interest in Ukraine.


Thread Level: 12

Source for the bio lab claim? Otherwise, I would hope we gave them weapons to defend themselves and

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:33 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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that we have intelligence facilities there with their permission. None of that excuses this aggression.

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Thread Level: 13

The bio-lab thing was a conspiracy theory planted by Putin. No evidence of this bull shit….

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:47 pm on Mar 13, 2024
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Cole has proven time and time again to be a traitorous piece of donkey dung. Discount anything he posts.

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705.amp

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