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Ah, General Milley has concluded that the Afghanistan abortion was the State Deptartment's fault.

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:18 pm on Mar 19, 2024
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What character! What integrity! What honor!

You'll note the not-so-subtle acceptance of the premise that the operation was a disaster.

Son of a gun, though, he can still strike that Sgt. Rock face. The ol' boy is giving speeches for tens of thousands right now, as it should be. Serve in public life, become a multi-millionaire. It's the American way!

We never did get that book report from him on "white rage," though. I know you all were waiting with bated breath like I was.


Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13215487/Bidens-Generals-Milley-McKenzie-blame-State-Department-Afghanistan-evacuation-order-came-late-Americans-Afghan-partners.html

Replies to: Ah, General Milley has concluded that the Afghanistan abortion was the State Deptartment's fault.


Thread Level: 2

It's Biden's fault at first. He shouldn't publicly give 9/11/2021 as Afghan withdrawal deadline

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:31 am on Mar 20, 2024
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or he could have used 9/11 deadline for the external/public only, a false deadline. Internally his deadline of withdrawal is on 7/1 or 8/1 or some date earlier. As Trump always said you don't give your enemy exact date for your operation. Because of 9/11 deadline, Taliban planned their final campaign starting from July.

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LOL...You're forgetting DJT's date of May 1st...tell us how that would have turned out...for us, and

Author: TyroneIrish (20626 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:57 am on Mar 20, 2024
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180.000 Afghanis who would not have gotten out.

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Ignorant. You picked up a date you don't understand. Doha Accord signed by US & Taliban says

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:43 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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The US agreed that US would have an immediate reduction of military force within 135 days from the signing date of the accord. After finishing 1st reduction of 135-day, US would finish full withdrawal within 14 months if the Taliban keep its commitments. This, 135 days+14 months, leads to the May 1st as the last day of this withdrawal. There was no such a thing as Trump claimed May 1st as deadline fir military withdrawal operation. In another word, your diplomatic agreement allows your military to stay 14 months + 135 days in Afghanistan since signing day, but that doesn't mean your plan is going to take 14 months + 135 days, i.e you pulled out last solider on April 30.

The point is, as we know Taliban didn't keep its commitments during those 14 months. The original 14-month promise made in Doha accord doesn't have to be kept and actually US didn't. So, without restriction of withdrawal deadline it's supposed to be more flexible for Biden to plan on withdraw from Afghan. Again he doesn't have to give deadline or he can give a false deadline which is longer than US need to withdraw. He didn't choose either. Stupid. And you, ignorant and clueless about the whole situation.


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Read the attached summary of the DOHA Accord...then tell us what you think would have happened if

Author: TyroneIrish (20626 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:15 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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Biden stuck with the May 1st date..

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal#:~:text=The%20Agreement%20for%20Bringing%20Peace,2001–2021%20war%20in%20Afghanistan.

Thread Level: 6

I already refuted your argument in your previous. Why should I read something else from you?

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:34 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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If you don't have counterargument, just move on.

Taliban had quite many insurgency during 14 months which violated their promise. So, US/Biden/Trump can still be committed to Afghan withdrawal of Doha accord. But US/Biden/Trump don't have to follow time frame defined by Doha accord. Again, without time frame Biden actually had more flexibility to plan withdrawal.


Thread Level: 7

Your first post in this thread criticized Biden for announcing a withdrawal date...but DJT already

Author: TyroneIrish (20626 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:48 am on Mar 21, 2024
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did just that...i.e. May 1st...only 3-1/2 mos after the new administration took office...so clearly that makes your complaint moot...so, I ask. you, what would the situation be if Biden had kept to that date?...how many Afghanis loyal to our troops and saving untold numbers of them, would have been rescued from Taliban retribution?...how much of our military equipment would have been removed?...that's what we call a "Rhetorical Question"...you don't have to answer it, since we know it would have been a disaster on both counts...as well as in a political sense with the U.S. abandoning those who aided us....just what Putin would like to see.

I'm not expecting you to agree or even respond...your don't like this country, yet you stay here...do yourself a favor and find a job in Russia or China...there's no need to torture yourself.


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Feel free to judge his actions, but I wouldn’t judge his character and honor if I were you…

Author: Domer From Hell (16427 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:45 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Milley has an impeccable service record with multiple and successful combat deployments. He’s a spec ops veteran whose men speak very highly of him. If you want to learn more about his character and his honorable service, read up on him.

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We're all born bald baby!
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A sampling of his character:

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:35 am on Mar 20, 2024
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1. Walks with Trump across the street for the bizarre Bible photo op, when an honorable man would've declined. Then, afterwards, writes about what a fiasco it was. Blames others.
2. Tells Chi-coms he will give them forewarning if the democratically-elected president makes a move against China. What would be the only accurate term for that?
3. Throws a majority of grunts under the bus by supporting the idea that they should be subjected to the moronic ramblings of neurotic defectives who evangelize a weird cultism that divides people in every institution it touches, all as an effort to pander to a political base of the current commander-in-chief to whom he's willing to whore himself.
4. After the Afghanistan disaster, he immediately claimed that he warned against the "no-plan pullout," but wasn't listened to. Blames others.
5. And then, according to Johnny Quest here, he lied yesterday about American military hardware not being left behind.

I have no idea how Milley was 40/50 years ago. Maybe he was everything you claim. I don't care. I'm talking about what he is. Now. In 2024.


Thread Level: 4

My responses…

Author: Domer From Hell (16427 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:40 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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1. He was ordered to attend that fiasco by Trump. He didn’t have a choice in the matter.
2. Milley testified during a congressional hearing that he did call his Chinese counterpart letting him know that Trump was not going to launch an attack. He also testified that the call was sanctioned by the Sec of Defense.
3. Not sure how to respond to this one. A number of soldiers that I served with never complained about his actions as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
4. What’s the problem here? He spoke up and his recommendations were ignored.
5. I agree that his comment was odd. There are a a number of videos showing US equipment left behind.


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We're all born bald baby!
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He absolutely did. Tender his resignation and refuse to participate in a farce. That's honor.

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:45 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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Participating and then sniveling afterwards is the opposite of honor.

Calling the Chi-coms was inexcusable. Breathtaking, really. Who did he think he was, our warrior-king?


Thread Level: 6

Disagree…

Author: Domer From Hell (16427 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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Trump is responsible for that fiasco. Trump made it into a circus…not Milley. Again, the call to the Chinese was sanctioned by the secretary of defense. I don’t mind that he made the call as he was trying to clean up another Trump mess.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 7

I understand your point, but would you have done that? Participated in that spectacle. He knew it

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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wrong and did it anyway.

This will surprise some people, but I will compare it to what Merrick Garland went along with the first couple years of this administration. I actually think he has some integrity, knew he was going along with directives from up above that were unconstitutional and wrong, and has now tried to make up for this.


Thread Level: 8

I would have been completely uncomfortable like Milley…

Author: Domer From Hell (16427 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:19 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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FYI, Milley realized after the fact that he shouldn’t have been there. He also apologized for seemingly politicizing the military. From a former soldier’s standpoint, Milley was not given an unlawful order and nothing that he did by being there was unconstitutional.

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We're all born bald baby!
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It's definitely Milley's fault that billions $ of US military equipments fall into Taliban hands

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:48 am on Mar 20, 2024
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It's indefensible for him and Pentagon.

Thread Level: 2

And no one will ever be held responsible for any decision that was made. Its typical of the way

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 am on Mar 20, 2024
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things happen in Washington. We were told this was a "success" when the world actually watched what happened and knew it was a complete failure. Of course, we had the mouth breathers from the MSM taking the talking points given to them by the administration to repeat them time and time again.

I'm sure these 2 will also become "consultants" for weapon manufacturers. Lots of money to be made from supplying free weapons to the world.


I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 2

It took him three years to come up with that?

Author: LanceManion (7958 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 9:21 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

Frequent MSNBC appearances and reading the Ibram X. Kendi collection take a long time.

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Did he conclude that our shameful flight from Afghanistan greenlit Putin's invasion of Ukraine?

Author: Curly1918 (16482 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 7:37 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Foggy Bottom earned its nickname for a reason.

Thread Level: 2

He also said…

Author: Quest4twelve (6741 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:10 am on Mar 20, 2024
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It was a culmination of 20 years of bad policy. That the Doha agreement played a factor, and that it was never adhered to.

Lastly, he debunked the monetary figure of equipment that was left behind. Not one American owned piece of equipment was left behind.


Thread Level: 3

Not a single missile launcher! Not even a single pistol! Now, Americans left behind? A few!

Author: MAS (21494 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:29 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Have you ever been prepared to hit "Post" and reconsidered because you knew that what you were about to post was entirely horse manure?

Thread Level: 4

Did you watch or just read the Daily Caller? I watched it, where am I wrong?

Author: Quest4twelve (6741 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:31 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Link: https://youtu.be/-E8Kt3hy9Rk?t=3441

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Thread Level: 3

An outrageous lie.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:07 am on Mar 20, 2024
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CNN, BBC, and the Biden Administration all admitted US equipment fell into the hands of the Taliban.
Much was disabled.or "given" to the Afghans. But it was left behind.


Thread Level: 2

Milley was too busy with "white rage" and drag shows to bother about Afghanistan.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 4:12 am on Mar 20, 2024
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He waited for retirement before he came clean. Made sure he got his pension.

Author: ELP (9603 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:27 am on Mar 20, 2024
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He has the same booking agent as HRC to help along his million dollar speaking engagement tour. These swamp DC insiders are all a piece of work.

Thread Level: 4

Wrong he testified to pretty much the same stuff when he was the Chairman but keep making things up.

Author: Quest4twelve (6741 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:38 am on Mar 20, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

Good grief. You are a big time D left fluffer.

Author: ELP (9603 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 12:03 pm on Mar 20, 2024
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