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A vote for Biden is really a vote for a President Harris. Change my mind.

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:54 am on Apr 29, 2024
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Replies to: A vote for Biden is really a vote for a President Harris. Change my mind.


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Biden and Stephanopoulos in lock-step on their instructions to the media. Pravda!

Author: jakers (13888 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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And a vote for war, taxing your savings&inheritance,& even “unrealized gains”.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59933 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:04 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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And, of course border chaos and unbridled spending.

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Trump:...give Putin whatever he wants...make sure billionaires can afford helo-pads on their yachts,

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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while lower class Americans struggle making ends meet with three jobs at minimum wage...reject a comprehensive, bi-partisan border security and fast immigrant processing bill just to win election and stay out of prison...reject bi-partisan spending on critical national needs such as Infrastructure...lie to Unions and side with CEOs...etc...oh, and a jaw-dropping array of criminal prosecutions...all verified by Grand Jury citizens picked at random.

Biden:...Decency, Respect and Action for those truly in need... demonstrated Results that benefit ALL Americans....strong opposition and worldwide leadership against our most dangerous enemies

Hopefully you never have to rely on Baron for a serious decision.


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Neat story...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33496 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:52 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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Funny as hell

Author: Frankx (5313 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 7:43 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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You are a human talking points regurgitator... or a Dem ChatGTP machine.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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And beyond Boring… Boring Infinity.

Author: Frankx (5313 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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A vote for Trump is a vote for a Rapist...a Racist...an Insurrectionist...a Fraud...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:43 am on Apr 29, 2024
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...a Puppet of Vladimir Putin...a Spreader of Hate...and the embodiment of the "Seven Deadly Sins"...Lust...Gluttony...Greed...Envy...Sloth...Wrath...and (False) Pride.

NOT the "qualities" this country needs in its leader...plus, we've already seen him fail to deliver on a multitude of promises in his first term...e.g. Wall...Support for Unions...Infrastructure...etc.

As for Joe Biden, there are millions of people in their early 80s functioning quite well...and all Vice Presidents have only two official jobs...be available to take over in case the President is unable to perform his/her duties, and cast tie-breaking votes in the Senate...beyond that, they don't set policy...and don't upstage the President.

wrt Kamala Harris in particular, before becoming VP, she was an outstanding AG who also worked collaboratively, and with scores of other State AGs, both Democrat and Republican, in leading efforts that resulted in major drug price reductions for ALL Americans...that's skill, intelligence and leadership...qualities we definitely want in a President.


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You are living in a State of unconsciousness.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASHO3gOSnaM

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Well, that helps explain your lack of substance on issues of importance ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:01 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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My post was far more accurate than your rant.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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From your lips to God's ear...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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They don’t care. We get the prez we deserve.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:10 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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We always do... and this rarely reflects well on us.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:29 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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Could all be true... but many of us will hold our noses and vote against Dem policies.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:56 am on Apr 29, 2024
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BUT... most people will vote purely on how they are doing and believe they will be doing FINANCIALLY.

And... if Trump were the Dem nominee and supported Dem policies you would vote for him.


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The 2024 election should not be about policy

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:14 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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It is bigger than policy disagreements.

You should consider the historical ramifications of your vote.


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If Joe cared about the country, he would step aside.

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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OK, but he didn't, so there is a binary choice

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:48 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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On one side is a traditional center-left Democrat. On the other, an unprecedented threat to the republic.

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Not when we're on an unsustainable path.

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:10 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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And we're very clearly on an unsustainable path, so either way you are voting for the end.

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Abject nonsense

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:15 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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But you’re the Deep Thinker, so I guess you’ve detected some line toward unsustainability that the rest of us can’t grasp.

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"We are on an unsustainable fiscal path" - Fed Chair Jerome Powell

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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Every election is about how voters feel policies will impact them financially.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:01 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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Obama is the only incumbant to win re-election when GNP growth was < 3% in the year prior to the election.

He was a unicorn because blacks voted in record numbers.

The vast majority tune out political issues entirely.

Very very few are seriously concerned about a threat to our democracy.

These are the paranoias of the extremists of both parties and the spin of both parties' propagandists.


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Right, because it simply can't happen here!

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:49 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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There are enemies of democracy in every country. And the forces of good have to continually beat them back.

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Yup, this one is the ultimate binary choice. You are either for our system and for sanity or against

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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them. That simple.

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How on earth do you conjure up the statement that I would vote for Trump after all I posted? ;-)...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:42 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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and what makes you think that the Democratic Party would ever allow such a person to be their nominee?

Don't be like Baron and simply 'Make Stuff Up' out of whole cloth.


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You would vote for ANYONE who supported the Dem agenda.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:18 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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I recall all the Bill Clinton apologists back in the day... notwithstanding his latent homosexual use of a cigar with an intern in the oval office.

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I've already posted that I voted for Republicans in the past (Reagan, Bush I & II)...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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however, with the passage of time and new understandings...like former GOP strategist, Stuart Stevens, I've come to see the GOP transition from a cooperative entity (e.g. Reagan's Immigration action...Bush I's recognition for needed taxes...and Bush II's "Compassionate Conservatism") to one that is now a blatant 'Safe Harbor' for racists and marketing arm for those seeking a Plutocracy (see Peter Theil).

There are Republicans who have been excised from their party that I could vote for...but never today's Trump/MAGA cult....sad to see you can't recognize the difference.


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Just like good little Germans. If he wins you better not fecking bitch about your in laws and

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:09 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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all the others he will eff over, probably with expanded immunity due to his SCOTUS packing.

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I trust our checks and balances... notwithstanding the Dems politicising our justice system.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:24 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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I just want the borders closed, the budget balanced, deregulation of small businesse, extension of the current tax rates, more conservative judges, more funding for our military, funding for students not schools, cessation of genital mutilation of children, defunding the Green New Deal, increased domestic oil production, increase in the age of entitlement for Federal retirement benefits, etc.,. etc.

AND I'm oblivous to name calling.


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I’m not calling yah names Curls. I like you and respect you unlike many here.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:30 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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I just think you are being foolish. As I said in response to Ned, just had dinner with a good friend and one of the smartest peeps I know. He feels just like you do. I think it’s sad, but I’m certainly not gonna lose a close friend over it. Plus, I may need him to help get me out of the future Orange gulag.

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As to your desires...in 2019, when confronted with a surge in immigrants, Trump called on Congress

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:59 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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to pass legislation to solve that problem...now he obstructs it...and get it through your head that Gender Surgery is rare...and done on adults...not children...after years of counseling and reversible puberty blocking treatment.

Let's briefly address some of your other complaints...but feel free to come back for an in-depth review of any or all of them.

>The U.S. is a net importer of Oil...we have 5yrs of Proven Reserves...and Climate Change physics are understood and accepted by all governments on this earth...even the O&G Industry...we MUST transfer off FFs for heat and power uses...only questions are how and when.

>Military Spending...the U.S. spends more than China and Russia combined (39% vs 17%)...re-read Eisenhower's comments of the choice between Defense and Social expenditures.

>Conservative Judges...what's wrong with 6 Federalist Society SCOTUS Justices?

And how about Dems negotiating bi-partisan legislation for Infrastructure and other critical needs?...they've demonstrated a willingness to "Play Ball" with fair minded Conservatives....you really think Trump and the MAGAs would do that?

Make a decision, Curly...Biden or Trump?


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Spin, spin, spin, spin... but we all know that the Dems want these millions of illegals.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:15 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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The U.S. Chamber of Commerce...Rep. Grassly...Texas Businesses...ALL want more immigrants...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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...because we NEED them...'Boomers' are leaving the working age population in droves and GDP is driven by population and productivity...and the national birth rate won't replace them...certainly not in the next 20 years...oh, and that bill strongly improves border security while processing acceptable immigrants much faster so that they become legal residents and eventually dedicated citizens...grateful to serve a country that cared for them in their struggle for a better life.

What we need is what's already on the table...i.e. the already agreed to Bi-Partisan Senate Immigration Bill...which your boy is blocking....SOLELY to keep unthinking voters like yourself riled up so that you'll put him where he can't be prosecuted...and for the sole purpose of keeping him from ending up where he truly belongs...in PRISON.


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And unlike the illegals, they would soon be eligible to vote. Why it won’t happen.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:37 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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Power...and income...over service to the country...you're right.

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:48 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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The odds say you’re wrong.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:24 am on Apr 29, 2024
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Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevevernon/2023/04/30/most-likely-president-joe-biden-will-live-through-a-second-term/?sh=29e3d8e6490e

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And the country did just fine after Woodrow Wilson’s stroke.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:33 am on Apr 29, 2024
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Who cares about his mental capacity anyway? He’s not making any decisions anyway.

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No doubt. With his amazing tireless work, the Treaty of Versailles was reasonable, and...

Author: NedoftheHill (44675 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:00 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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...we never had to fight a 2nd War to End All Wars.

Why would anyone be concerned about Biden being Commander in Chief for 4 and half more years?


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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He has a 10% less chance of surviving than does Orange. With Orange’s clogged arteries any chance

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:06 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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of a stroke there? The father also died of dementia.

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I would not be displeased if Trump left the building. But for him the Republicans would sweep.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:27 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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I still blame the Dems for creating him.

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Which was my point above. If the GOP had even teeny, teeny little cojones at the second impeachment

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:46 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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trial, there would be a much more qualified, sane, and palatable candidate who would crush Old Joe. Too much to ask from yer cowardly cohorts I guess.

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They didn’t create him, but did help create the conditions that made him possible.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:35 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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The GOP leaders could have ended all of this at the second impeachment trial. Cowards. They know what he is, but are too craven and self interested to do anything about it.

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Here's what you'll be voting for

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:23 am on Apr 29, 2024
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Link: https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1784230836356677939

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Bring up Trump. Boy, didn't see that coming. You're truly sad and pathetic.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Apr 29, 2024
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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