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world peace is always a fragile thing.
“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution”
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Fools.
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Enemies of democracy usually hide their views.
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Religious persecution against practicing Christians, etc., etc.
Not to mention your own denial of the 2016, 2004, and 2000 elections or so many other violations such as the refusal to protect our own sovereign borders by enforcing the law that you are legally obligated to follow....but don't.
Accuse others of that which you yourself do/are.
Whenever the Dems lose an election they run around taking about the popular vote and how we should get rid of the Electoral College, you know, terminating parts of the Constitution? I'm guessing that's not the same at all though right?
You act like Trump is going to somehow do something he couldn't do last time. You think if he was really going to be able to end democracy in America he would have done it last time when he was actually President? It's all just fear mongering.
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I told my girl the other day that yes, this country can fall, and yes it can become an authoritarian nightmare, when she asked if I thought it was possible after we were watching some WW2 history about the rise of Nazi Germany.
Thank you for posting a section of the book, I made it through about half of it, don't have time to finish right now but I will.
I found some things interesting in the book. The first being that the writers are obviously only looking at Trump, because they are looking at political outsiders being the death of democracy. That is good, and understandable, and I have to agree that Trump certainly checks that box. I would imagine if I looked into the authors that they would probably be somewhere on the left politically, not saying far left whackos, but I would say they probably had a bias.
Another thing that caught my attention was the Table for key indicators of authoritarian behavior. I'm going to post some of it here, not all exactly verbatim, but with my thoughts attached to it as well.
Rejection of rules of the game: I would argue that the very left leaning SC Justices view that the Constitution is a living breathing document would check that box. Restricting basic civil rights like freedom of speech has been a hallmark of the left for awhile now. I know you will check the box of insurrection for Trump, I'm not sold on it being an insurrection, but I'm also not happy with any of those asshats that marched on 1/6. Attempting to undermine the legitimacy of elections was started by Gore, continued by Hillary, and yes, has been done by Trump. You have to admit that he learned it from your side though. This also goes with my point I made earlier that the folks on the left want to get rid of the Electoral College and go only with popular vote. That is, in my opinion, far more dangerous than anything that Trump can do.
Denial of legitimacy: The left checks every single one of these boxes right now. Do they describe rivals as subversive or opposed to existing constitutional order? Yes. Do they claim their rival constitutes and existential threat to either national security or prevailing way of life? Yes. Do they baselessly describe their rival as a criminal whose violation should disqualify them? Yes. Do they baselessly suggest their rival is a foreign asset, working in alliance with or the employ of a foreign government, usually an enemy? Yes, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Toleration or encouragement of violence: The Dems have ties to organizations that engage in illicit violence, they have sponsored and encouraged mob attacks, they have tacitly endoresed violence by refusing to unambiguously condemn it and punish it, and they have praised significant acts of violence both in the past and elsewhere in the world.
Readiness to curtail civil liberties of opponents, including media: The left has taken legal action against Trump and his allies. Most of the media is left leaning, they don't really have to do much against it, but I guess they didn't mind the lawsuit against Fox that Ty loves to remind everyone about.
Again, I appreciate you posting the portion of the book, and look forward to finishing it. I would also enjoy your thoughts on the key indicators of authoritarian behavior that I shared.
I think you can sleep well if this is your paradise. The paradise of not having to give a fuck about the struggle of your fellow human. They deserve it for (hypothetically) voting for ORANGE!
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the basics.
That sounds like the end of the world to an indoctrinated Marxist like Chris.
I’ve only posted it a dozen times.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/How-Democracies-Die-Steven-Levitsky/dp/1524762938?dplnkId=6ada61ac-de27-4116-98f5-60207612b6f9&nodl=1
I'm making fun of that idiocy, again.
Objection - relevance.
That we had 3 instances of spy balloons during Trump's first end of democracy rule, and the deep state didn't tell the commander in chief.
Classic cult level self-delusion.
And the cult dutifully went along with the narrative that this was actually yet another brilliant move by the Biden administration.
Scores of Americans were righteously prosecuted and convicted as a result of January 6th.
Trump has been indicted for his role in seeking to subvert our democracy. Read the indictment.
election. I’m not saying that argument holds water, but I’m confident many of the protesters viewed themselves as protecting the Constitution via a fair Election.
There are many reasons to dislike Trump, but many people view another Biden election as a threat to the Constitution.
states...ALL told him he lost the 2020 election...yet he set up a "War Room" at the Willard Hotel on Jan. 5th with "Fake Elector Scheme" architects and leaders of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers...who pled guilty to 'Seditious Conspiracy', no less...for the purpose of halting the Constitutional transfer of power.
The Jan. 6th protesters may have been misinformed, but DJT wasn't...and btw, that makes him responsible for the deaths of Ashley Babbitt, and Capital Police Officers...had he not promoted the Insurrection, they'd still be living their lives today.
Many January 6th defendants asserted they felt compelled to storm or disrupt the January 6th electoral certification of the 2020 verdict, relying upon then President Trump’s constant stream of disinformation that the election was stolen. He knew otherwise. Numerous court decisions made clear there was no substance to allegations of ballot tampering. Trump’s own election security chief — Chris Krebs — emphasized before Thanksgiving that the election was the most secure ever.
The only reason so many Americans cling to the falsehoods about the 2020 election results is Trump himself. Doing so greatly discredited Biden’s legitimacy, tarnishing our democracy.
Minimizing, or worse, supporting Trump’s degradation of the 2020 election, is a troubling trend amongst posters, and Americans.
Trump one.
or suspending parts of the Constitution.
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With a disengenguous whimper from yours truly.
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