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Biden DOJ prosecutor Smith moves to block Trump from telling people DOJ was authorized to shoot him

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:20 am on May 25, 2024
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Which is 100% true.

It must have really hit them in the polls when the truth came out.
I know the Left will claim this was a routine order….not against a former POTUS and future rival….and sending multiple ambulances and EMT’s to the scene, and sending in air, sea, and land support, and disguising some in civilian clothing, and notifying the MSM so that they could have coverage of the surprise event for political purposes……..

No, that is not normal.

Especially since the Biden advocates in the National Archives were disingenuously negotiating with Trump’s lawyers - making them believe that a deal could be reached while secretly working with the Biden WH for months ahead of time on this raid.

And Trump was POTUS and has a legal right to take those documents while Biden, to whom nothing was done despite four efforts to hide his documents, had STOLEN his documents as a Senator and later VP with no legal precedent.

Look at who uses violence. Look at who treats people unequally. Look at who tries to suppress free speech.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jack-smith-asks-judge-restrict-trump-statements-after-inflammatory-remarks-about-fbi-raid

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Thread Level: 2

This is the absolute dumbest GOP talking point.

Author: Chris94 (36788 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:16 am on May 25, 2024
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Good to see you’re keeping it alive.

Thread Level: 3

Look who moves to restrict freedoms. If it's so dumb, then why is Smith moving to block his speech?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:26 am on May 25, 2024
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This is actually true, and this is a repercussion for that decision. It wasn't just what was on the warrant, it was all of the other factors that I mentioned as well which you conveniently ignore. You may claim that the same wording was in Biden's warrant, but they never raided his home...none of the four times they should have if they treated things equally. The ambulances, EMT's, deception, and provocative nature of the raid made that lethal force warrant FAR more pertinent with Trump (and was CLEARLY unnecessary)..

You can't restrict free speech especially when it is absolutely true. People have a right to know. But you wish to selectively restrict that speech, even when the statements coming from your party are lies.


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The defining characteristic of the MAGA movement is stupidity

Author: Chris94 (36788 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:43 pm on May 25, 2024
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Trump has mobilized the nation’s dumbasses.

Thread Level: 5

Not one substantive response. Merely vindictives without reason.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:13 pm on May 25, 2024
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Don't forget "clowns" and "deplorables". You are acting like such an arrogant educator who may be

Author: THEISMANCARR (17217 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 3:36 pm on May 25, 2024
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intelligent in theories and calculations but lost when it comes to common sense and awareness of how middle America wants to live.

Thread Level: 6

Right on the screws. Perfect

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:41 pm on May 25, 2024
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This coming from someone is much more often wrong than right

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:19 pm on May 25, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

Our president and vice president are both dumbasses.

Author: iairishcheeks (27325 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:17 pm on May 25, 2024
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Is this what you call equity?

Thread Level: 4

“Gag Orders” are legal…especially when DJT seeks to undermine our Judicial System with his

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:14 pm on May 25, 2024
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Patently False statements.

Thread Level: 5

A lot of what he says is right on and some may be questioned but everyone has the right to make

Author: THEISMANCARR (17217 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 3:38 pm on May 25, 2024
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their opinions known. Let those who listen decide if they are facts or not.

Thread Level: 5

Would it be possible to seek one for you?

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:32 pm on May 25, 2024
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LOL...you think you're.a pleasure to converse with? ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:50 pm on May 25, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

Drama queen much?

Author: Domer From Hell (16443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:51 am on May 25, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 3

Heh. You apparently just hate Putin, but you love his style. eh?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:30 am on May 25, 2024
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The DOJ authorizes the use of force on every raid, dummy.

Author: Domer From Hell (16443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:38 am on May 25, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
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Read the whole post, dummy. They didn't raid Biden. They didn't ....

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:01 pm on May 25, 2024
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use drones, boats, and land forces, they didn't bring in ambulances and EMT's to be on standby (not a typical action when serving a warrant, they didn't disguise some of their officers as civilians, and they didn't call the media to have cameras set up to record the surprise raid for national coverage.
They clearly expected the real possibility of a shoot out....which is absurd, except for the fact that Trump had Secret Service officers whom they knew (hoped?) might escalate the problem? The ultimate in TDS.

Meanwhile, they DIDN'T raid Biden - despite him withholding additional documents on four occasions, despite him having STOLE his documents as a senator and VP (The Presidential records Act allows trump to have the records that he did, but Biden had them illegally by any standard), despite Biden having actually Top Secret files within the classified documents, despite Biden having shared the documents with a civilain biographer, and despite him having the documents in unsecure locations - one of which an unlocked broom closet in Philadelphia at The Penn Biden Center which is funded by a Chinese front man.

I realize you didn't know any of this because you closed your ears and little, little mind long ago. Your issue is simply ignorance....and your happy in it.


Thread Level: 6

Honestly, I couldn’t care less if they raided Biden or not..:

Author: Domer From Hell (16443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:10 pm on May 25, 2024
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and this situation is of Trump’s doing, is it not? Didn’t Trump refuse to give back the classified docs? Didn’t he lie about the classified docs?

Biden had classified docs in unsecured locations (like Trump), but he didn’t refuse to give them back or lie about them, did he?


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We're all born bald baby!
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Documents he procured as VP, which he had no right to have. Big difference

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:15 pm on May 25, 2024
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Definitely a big difference…

Author: Domer From Hell (16443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:18 pm on May 25, 2024
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Another big difference is that Trump lied and refused to give the documents back…hence the raid. Kind of a dumb ass move by Trump, no?

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 9

So dummy, Biden refused to give all docs back 4 diff times- lying that he had given them all back x4

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:15 pm on May 25, 2024
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Didn’t know that side of the story. I stand corrected. Thank you

Author: Domer From Hell (16443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:16 pm on May 25, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 11

Will it never end?...Baron just makes stuff up whenever he likes...Biden never refused to return any

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:28 pm on May 25, 2024
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documents...quite the opposite...he returned them without any obstruction...unlike with DJT who concealed...and moved...scores of documents for the express purpose of hiding them and not returning them.

Again...after much investigation by a GOP Special Counsel...NO charges were recommended against Joe Biden...and there are reams of evidence justifying the indictment against Trump. Baron is incapable of rational judgements.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/09/politics/fact-check-biden-makes-three-false-claims-about-his-handling-of-classified-information/index.html

Thread Level: 12

Pathetic and flawed attempt to cover Biden's propensity for lying. Yr lack of

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:42 pm on May 25, 2024
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credibility has made u a laughing stock

Thread Level: 13

Here are a couple of facts...Special Counsel Hur did hot charge Biden with lying or obstruction...

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:45 pm on May 25, 2024
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...you may wish he did...but that's not what happened.

The sooner you and your peeps start relying on facts and evidence, the sooner you'll gain some measure of credibility...the reasonable people of the world will be watching.


Thread Level: 14

What he did say was even more damming for Biden; he's confused, incompetent, and basically would be

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 am on May 26, 2024
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incapable of defending himself against any charges. There is yr president ladies and gentlemen

Thread Level: 15

Aside from his unwarranted editorializing, Hur also praised him in the transcript (but not Report)

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:15 am on May 26, 2024
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for JB's "photographic memories" of certain events...he also acknowledged the difficulty of focusing on the interview while simultaneously dealing with the multiple issues surrounding the JUST OCCURRED Hamas attack on Israel.

Once again...no justification for charges against JB...TONS of evidence against DJT...and if he doesn't win in Nov...he knows his golfing days are over.


Thread Level: 11

Fair enough. Respect.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:41 pm on May 25, 2024
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There's that, versus: Knowingly disclosing classified information to his ghost writer.

Author: iairishcheeks (27325 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:51 pm on May 25, 2024
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The ghost writer deleted the recordings once he heard about the issue, DOJ was able to recover them. Joe lied about all of it in his tantrum news conference, but I suppose you could use the Castanza defense, it's not a lie if you believe it. Hur, basically said that Biden is unfit to be our president in not recommending charges.

So, which dishonest jackass do you want for the next 4 years? I can't vote for either of them, but I also can't blame anyone for voting against either of them.


Thread Level: 10

It’s good that you’re not a Trump sycophant….

Author: Domer From Hell (16443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:15 pm on May 25, 2024
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and I stand corrected on Biden’s lies about the classified docs.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 6

Trump lied and obstructed the recovery of Top Secret documents….JB didn’t.

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:05 pm on May 25, 2024
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You are such a a simp.

Author: Iggle (12639 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 12:49 pm on May 25, 2024
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Moron

Link: https://x.com/GrahamAllen_1/status/1767900968258281614?t=Ru_B129fLM5f6BIBFcWmSg&s=19

Thread Level: 8

Mr. Hur summarizes that no charges are recommended...not the case with DJT's repeated lies and

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:54 pm on May 25, 2024
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obstructions....from the attached article...
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Washington — Special counsel Robert Hur issued his report on President Biden's handling of classified documents from his time as vice president, finding that no criminal charges were warranted. The special counsel said he would have reached the same conclusion even if the Justice Department did not foreclose charges against a sitting president.

"We conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt," the report says. "Prosecution of Mr. Biden is also unwarranted based on our consideration of the aggravating and mitigating factors."

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Link: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-special-counsel-report-handling-classified-documents/

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Thread Level: 9

Any port in storm for you

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:09 pm on May 25, 2024
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Thread Level: 10

That's the defining difference...one that could very likely result in many years of incarceration

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:05 pm on May 25, 2024
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for Trump.

Thread Level: 6

The FBI also didn’t stage photos of Biden‘s documents like they did for Trump.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:04 pm on May 25, 2024
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Nice work it’s hard educating the idiots on his board

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Would it have been more acceptable for the FBI to show videos of Walt Nauta moving boxes from

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:09 pm on May 25, 2024
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one part of Mar-a-Lago to another so as to keep them hidden?...you and your peeps are some of the biggest losers I've ever seen...just like Trump.

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This^^^^^

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:33 pm on May 25, 2024
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Yep. They love to defend this saying "You can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater" 2 points:

Author: BaronVonZemo (60127 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:11 pm on May 25, 2024
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1) When there is a fire, it's ok....and there IS a fire here that the Dems don't want people to know about. and

2) They have no problems making public claims that "Republicans are going to starve your children and take away your social security" which is absolutely "yelling fire" falsely, but then they want to block the speech that actually is a matter of irrefutable fact.

If this goes through against Trump, it will boost him even more. It is just that something like this should never go through and is a horrible precedent.


Thread Level: 2

The EXACT SAME language was in the warrant for Biden…it’s there

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 am on May 25, 2024
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for the purpose of LIMITING the use of weapons the FBI agents carry.

And…as has been noted in the Media…the FBI knew DJT was in NJ but warned the Secret Service of the raid anyway.

Just like his Avatar, Donald Trump,…if he’s breathing he’s lying.


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Thread Level: 2

I might not believed it before but I absolutely do now. You don’t believe everything you post.

Author: Quest4twelve (6750 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:34 am on May 25, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

One thing you can take to the bank...Baron is obsessed with denying women's reproductive rights...

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:12 am on May 25, 2024
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and he see's 'Libs' standing in his way...therefore, 'Libs' must be attacked...ALWAYS...even if he has to "Make Stuff Up" and swear allegiance to the most immoral, unethical, sociopathic Malignant Narcissist you could imagine...something went wrong somewhere along the line, but he's not changing...been at this far too long.

Thread Level: 4

Once again you break board rules by completely deviating from the subject of

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:40 pm on May 25, 2024
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the original post, to insert one of yr usual falsehoods. Why are you so special?

Thread Level: 5

I'm responding to Quest's comment regarding "everything" Baron posts...totally relevant...plus, I've

Author: TyroneIrish (20658 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:06 pm on May 25, 2024
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previously addressed the OP issue of Jack Smith's request to block Trump from speaking falsehoods that demean our Justice System..

You must have some other purpose in making such a post...hmmm, wonder what that could be.


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Thread Level: 5

When you run out of ammo..,

Author: Frankx (5385 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 1:06 pm on May 25, 2024
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Thread Level: 6

Let the excuses begin ??

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:54 pm on May 25, 2024
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