Can someone tell me which name is being used to describe black folks who don't vaccinate...
because of the Tuskegee Experiment, religious reasons, or because Trump was president when the vaccines were developed? Any labels of "dumbasses" or "anti-scientific troglodytes? Just sussing out who is serious about this and who is simply playing politics.
The usual, paternalistic, "I lower my vocabulary when speaking to black people" honky liberal attitude on this, too? Something tells me that the, "Let's make it hard on those who refuse to vaccinate" crowd doesn't have a picture of these folks in their heads when express such sentiments.
Replies to: Can someone tell me which name is being used to describe black folks who don't vaccinate...
Plague rats of color?
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BIPROC's? (Or maybe ROUSes?)
Yeah, fascinating that they've only applied that, very specifically, to Trump supporters.
Not a single time have they commented on the slew of articles and news reporting that many blacks refuse to vaccinate because of Tuskegee. Not once. Curious, curious, curious.
Frank is actually a coward and hypocrite. Only board
members are plague rats
They regurgitate whatever MSNBC tells them.
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You really do say the most inane things anymore since your obsession began.
Why would be there be separate terms for black refusalists? The same ones that apply to all apply to them along the lines of dumb assery and dumb fuckery.
Seek help, you need it.
No, genius, as I explcitly stated, I'm waiting for you and Tweedledee to call them "dumbasses."
You won't do it for the same reason that white libs adjust their vocabulary and speech patterns when speaking to black people. Prove me wrong. State that people who refuse to vaccinate because of the Tuskegee Experiment are morons. Instead, you two drips focus only upon, ser-prise, ser-prise, Trumpers.
I just did sweetheart. They are dumbasses like all the other refusalists.
None of the reasons including Tuskeegee are a valid excuse.
Clear enuff for yah?
Now run along and continue your perusal of woke outrages to list.
I asked you and Tweedledee to apply the same terminology.
You and Dee have commented on the phenomenon of black folks refusing vaccination for these reasons precisely zero times. Isn't that interesting? You single out the Trumpers and that's it. It's almost like you two atom-splitters are less interested in getting everyone vaccinated and more interested in keeping up your Trump Outrage Rate. Curious, curious, curious.
Actually you are wrong. Use the search feature sweetie. I have said the exact thing just said
before.
Stop embarrassing yourself and admit you have a problem and get help.
You commented that blacks who refuse for the Tuskegee Experiment are morons? Where's the link?
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I commented that they are plague rats and got into a bit of a row with your now on ignore pal Coley.
Yah can look it up, if yinz wants.
Again stop embarrassing yourself.
Where's the link, Frank. Methinks you are lying, again about calling blacks dumbasses for using...
Tuskegee as the reason. I'd like to see that post of yours.
Now, how will you try to avoid this simple request?
You can look it up sweetie, it’s there.
Now run along. You are an embarrassment. As always. I enjoy your tantrums though when you get caught by yer own bloviations.
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You know it's not there, Frank. Is this the day where you completely bottom out?
This sweetie shit is getting very freaking weird.
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His usual infantile behavior.
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Would you care to wager on that? Keep stomping your feet little MAS.
Your embarrassment is complete.
Post the link.
You will literally keep going for six hours and still not post a link to it. Where is your post calling blacks who refuse due to Tuskegee morons? Where is it?
No that would be you. I made the assertion and stand behind it. Go refute it or put your money where
your mouth is. I am not doing your research.
You are around adolescents way to much.
Hilarious! You assert that you posted this, but I have to look it up to prove you did not!
As in every case in the history of the Internet like this, any time any user tells someone, "I don't have time to educate you!" or "Look it up yourself!" that person is llllllllying.
Check 5/5/21 sweetie.
In fact ColeyO said I called the majority of blacks dumbasses on the subject.
You are an utter embarrassment.
Sho, Frank, sho. Yet you won't just post the link. Sho.
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Here it comes! Meltdown time! Watch for grammar and fluency to go out the window!
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This is one of your better tantrums sweetie.
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I'll take people who say dumbphuckery things... Alex
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I would bet it's the same as the one used to describe Asians and Whites who refuse vaccination.
Do you have a particular label for them? If so, post it.
Calling blacks and whites the same name makes it not racist to call blacks that name? Interesting.
You don't usually take that position.
Cunning ain't you.
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Are Black leaders telling their followers to not get vaxxed?
Because some - not all - of the dipshit GOP is.
Plus, racial discrepancies seem to be explicable with access, and insurance - even though the shots are free.
Or maybe genetic inferiority. Maybe you’re right after all.
“The unvaccinated group are younger, more likely to identify as Republicans or be Republican-leaning, and more likely to have lower levels of education and lower incomes than the vaccinated population.
Unvaccinated adults are significantly younger, with 29% of those in the group falling in the 18-29 year old range compared to 17% of those in the vaccinated group. In addition, a smaller share of unvaccinated adults are 65 and older (9%) than the vaccinated group (28%). This may reflect recent changes in access to vaccines with older populations being among the first groups eligible to be vaccinated in states. President Biden announced that 90% of adults would be eligible to get the vaccine by April 19th but there were still significant waiting times for many adults who had just gotten eligible. Over the next few weeks we will better know whether these age differences are due to vaccine access or to actual different vaccine intentions among younger adults.
There are strong partisan differences in vaccine intentions with almost half (49%) of unvaccinated adults identifying as Republicans or Republican-leaning independents, compared to three in ten (31%) vaccinated adults. On the other hand, Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents make up a majority of the vaccinated population (about six in ten), while about three in ten in the unvaccinated population identify as Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents.
Compared to vaccinated adults, smaller shares of White adults are unvaccinated, with no significant differences for Black and Hispanic adults on whether they have received at least one-dose so far, despite Black and Hispanic adults lagging in vaccination rates compared to Whites. Around two-thirds (64%) of vaccinated adults are White, compared to 56% of unvaccinated adults. With difficulty accessing vaccine locations and services disproportionately impacting the non-White population, current outreach continues to strive to bridge the gap.
Americans with lower levels of education make up a larger share of the unvaccinated population than the vaccinated one, with 46% of unvaccinated adults holding a high school degree or less compared to 34% of vaccinated adults. Vaccinated Americans are twice as likely as unvaccinated to have a college degree or higher (38% vs. 19%).
The unvaccinated group also tends to include disproportionate shares of adults without health insurance coverage as well as those with lower levels of income. Those under the age of 65 without insurance make up about one quarter of the unvaccinated population, and 42% of all unvaccinated adults report earning less than $40K a year.
THE “DEFINITELY NOT” GROUP COMPARED TO THE “WAIT AND SEE” GROUP
KFF has been tracking vaccine intentions over the past six months and while there are clear demographic differences between vaccinated adults and unvaccinated adults, there are also differences within the unvaccinated population depending on whether they are still open to getting a vaccine or not. Specifically, those who say they want to “wait until it has been available for a while to see how it is working for other people” before getting vaccinated, the wait and see group (12% of all adults) look distinctly different from the most vaccine resistant group, those who say they will “definitely not” get a COVID-19 vaccine (the definitely not group represents about 13% of U.S. adults). While the share of the U.S. adult population who self-identified as “wait and see” has decreased over the past several months as tens of millions of U.S. adults have received a vaccine and few people have experienced serious side effects from the vaccine, the share of the public who are in the “definitely not” group has not shifted dramatically over the past six months.
The key demographic differences between the “wait and see” and the “definitely not” groups center on racial and ethnic identity and political partisanship. Half of those in the “wait and see” group are people of color. Throughout the rollout of the vaccines, larger shares of Black and Hispanic adults have reported they would want to “wait until it has been available for a while to see how it is working for other people” before getting vaccinated. This still holds true in the latest KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor with Black adults and Hispanic adults both representing about one-fifth of the “wait and see” group. On the other hand, the most vaccine resistant group, those who say they will “definitely not” get a COVID-19 vaccine is overwhelmingly made up of White adults (70% of the group compared to 49% of the “wait and see” group).
The “wait and see” group is also split politically, with about four in ten who identify as Republicans or Republican-leaning independents and another four in ten as Democrats or Democratic-leaning, while the more vaccine resistant “definitely not” group is overwhelmingly Republican-leaning, with two-thirds (67%) in the group identifying as either Republican or Republican-leaning independents.
There is a smaller share of rural residents in the “wait and see” group (11%) than in the “definitely not” group (23%) but the “definitely not” group is also characterized by other demographics that disproportionately live in rural areas, including more White adults and Republicans.
There are no significant differences when you look at age, education, and insurance status among those who are unvaccinated with about seven in ten in both unvaccinated groups under the age of 50, about one in five have college degrees, and similar shares reporting being uninsured.
Vaccine Intentions Among Unvaccinated Adults Strongly Connected To Views Of Pandemic, Past Flu Vaccine Behavior
People’s intentions to get a COVID-19 vaccine are also largely connected with their previous experience with vaccines and their overall views of the pandemic.
Unvaccinated adults are less likely to reporting getting of the flu vaccine, with over three-quarters (77%) saying they do not normally get a flu vaccine each year. The vast majority of unvaccinated adults who say they will “definitely not” get the COVID-19 vaccine say they don’t regularly get their flu vaccine (91%), compared to about seven in ten (71%) of those in the “wait and see” group.
About six in ten unvaccinated adults (57%) think that what is said about COVID-19 in the news is generally exaggerated, significantly larger than the share of vaccinated adults who say the same (22%). Again, differences exist between the “wait and see” and the “definitely not” with close to twice as many of the latter group saying the news has exaggerated Covid-19. About three-fourths of vaccinated adults either say the news have either been “generally correct” or “generally underestimated” the severity of the pandemic.
In addition to thinking the news has overstated the problem, most unvaccinated adults say they are not worried about getting sick from coronavirus. About seven in ten unvaccinated adults overall, including nearly nine in ten (88%) of those in the “definitely not” group say they are either “not too worried” or “not at all worried” about personally getting sick from COVID-19. Those in the “wait and see” group are more likely to say they are worried, but still a majority of them (56%) say they are not worried.
Despite being less likely to be worried about getting sick, one-third of unvaccinated adults say they know someone close who has died due to COVID-19, according to the April COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor – including 29% of those who say they definitely won’t get the vaccine.
Unvaccinated Adults Have Different Concerns and Some In The “Wait and See” Group Say Certain Incentives Could Persuade Them
The KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor has consistently found that many unvaccinated adults report being concerned about the safety of the vaccines. This is true among both the “wait and see” group and the “definitely not” group with large majorities of both saying they are concerned the vaccines are not as safe as they are said to be. The two groups differ on other concerns. For example, they differ in terms of concerns about the vaccine’s impact on fertility (two-thirds of the “definitely not” group say they are at least somewhat concerned about this compared to 44% of the “wait and see” group) and on concerns about having to pay for a vaccine (one-third of the “wait and see” group is concerned about this compared to 19% of the “definitely not” group). Nearly four in ten (37%) in the “wait and see” group also express concern about being able to get the vaccine from a place they trust, perhaps another indicator of health care access issues within this group.”
Link: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-profile-of-the-unvaccinated/
Yes.
Annnnnnnnnnd here:
You won't call them stupid, sugar plum.
You won't single them out. In fact, you have people down that aforementioned hallway who will legitimize the moronic idea that black folks are justified in basing their refusal to vaccinate upon the Tuskegee Experiment and other paranoid conspiracy theories. You're not that stupid. Maybe some of your colleagues are, but you're not. You're just too cowardly to be intellectually consistent on this count.
I love the premise that a free test is still unattainable. I've seen this mental contortion floated before when the intensely uncomfortable data reveals the depth of resistance among blacks is unavoidable. Give me a specific example of a locality in the lower 48 where people interested in getting vaccinated are unable to get to a vaccination site. We're not talking about difficulty in getting a poor black American with cancer to a proper oncology unit, we're talking about getting to COVID vaccination site. Please, share with me where connecting anyone with this kind of site is preventing the willing from becoming vaccinated. Pick a state most conducive to this gymnastics routine. Pick Mississippi. Or Alabama. You choose. Where is there an inability to access a COVID vax site where people who are open to vaccination are being dissuaded from vaccinating because of a lack of access?
The decision not to get vaccinated is stupid and dangerous. Full stop.
Unlike some people, I don’t make differentiations based on race.
Nothing is as tiresome as white persecution blather. And you’re the king of it.
No, you must provide a separate, but equal reason to call black refusalists, dumbasses.
(which they are ).
The wonderful world of MAS bloviation.
Holy crap, are you dense.
Or just dishonest. Quote the line where I asked anyone to use separate terms. I asked you and Dee to apply the same term. Has TDS eroded everything above the neck?
Awesome. You completely missed his point.
Your layers of totally unjustified intellectual arrogance sure served you well in this thread.
All hat (constant bloviation), no cattle (substance).
His alleged reduckulous point that one wouldn’t call blacks dumbasses for being refusalists over Tuskeegee or whatever their issue might be, is just that, crazy. I call all of these nutties what they are, regardless of their dumbass reason. I also call their Tuskegee reason, dumbassery because it is. He’s tryin to hide the dumbassery of MAGA behind the dumb assery of others. He’s just a whacked zealot. Why else would he be constantly criticizing those calling out those who won’t vax while claiming not to be anti vax?
Oh, you mean his point that I said something that I didn't say? Brilliant.
Here's a thought experiment: if you called Trumpers "dumbasses" for not getting vaccinated, would you generally receive approval from your colleagues? Would you receive general approval for saying, "Any blacks not getting the vaccine because of Tuskegee are dumbasses?" You know the answer, which is why you will not say that. Again, cowardice, along with the fact that you aren't really concerned about COVID. Instead, this is about your Trump obsession and his supporters.
You’re just figuring this out?
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And I have continually told you sweetie, I do. Stop projecting.
You are the one trying to divide refusalists along racial lines. Not me. I’ll say it one more time to penetrate that thicket of your skull, they are ALL dumbasses, including but not limited to those citing the Tuskegee experiments as their reason.
Where's the link to you commenting that blacks who refuse because of Tuskegee are morons?
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See above sweetie. You are a parody.
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Where's the link, Frank? Where's the link?
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See above. You need a time out from this tantrum.
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Where's the link, Frank?
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On the board sweetie. Go fetch.
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Not on this board, it's not. Do you delight others with your presence on another board?
Link, please.
Yes, yes it is. It is easily verifiable. Fetch.
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He left the other board after Trump won, big baby.
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No, that's not I what said. You call Trumpers who refuse to vaccinate "dumbasses."
You focus solely upon them. I'd like you to say that people who don't get vaccinated because of the Tuskegee Experiment, religion, and Trump are "dumbasses" and morons. That's different than saying that it's a dumb reason. You won't do it. Again, cowardly. So cowardly.
FACT: There is no CVS, Walgreens, Kroger, Health Clinics in black communities.
Also, Democrat run cities with large black populations refuse to conduct any outreach or set up public vaccination sites targeted at minorities.
Indeed...indeed. Black people also lack automobiles and cannot read public transit schedules.
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