The second half of the podcast talks about how the vast majority of global psychology papers are produced by the US. Most of these studies use American college students as subjects. This seems to be creating large misconceptions about human behavior, since it turns out that a lot of our behavior is actually driven by culture.
So, for example, there were many studies of the Ultimatum Game. This is where you give $100 to person 1 and he makes an offer to give person 2 some of the money. Person 2 can veto the transaction so that neither gets any money. Studies in the US found that offers in the $40-$50 range were necessary to keep person 2 from using the veto. This was then conflated as a general human trait. It turns out, though, that different cultures actually behave quite differently, with offers as low as $5-$10 not generating a veto in other countries. I wonder if this could be part of the reproducibility crisis in the social sciences.
Anyway, it is an interesting listen if you are into this kind of thing.
Link: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/american-culture-1/
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the speaker say that he had found a 'full range' of outcomes throughout his worldwide investigation...i.e. deals of over $50 outside the U.S....correct me if I'm wrong on that...didn't spend a lot of time on it...but if that's the case, there's more to this than just nationality...what do you think?
BTW, this triggered an observation I've had regarding our political spectrum...i.e. the Conservative side of our spectrum appears to be very much into "ME" issues...e.g. "I don't have to get vaccinated if I don't want to"...while the Progressives tend to think in "WE" terms...e.g. "Getting vaccinated benefits everyone, not just yourself"...what do you think about that?
Progressives focus on a tiny percentage of the population and push their agenda rather than that of the vast majority. Transgenders make up a fraction of one percent of the population of the country, yet we should allow that tiny percentage to dictate bathroom policy and potentially ruin sports for the 51-ish% of the country that is female. Indeed, progressives believe we should allow confused teens and pre-teens to use aggressive hormone treatment immediately (basically at the earliest whim), rather than explore even the briefest period of psychological counseling.
Approximately 18 unarmed black men are killed mistakenly by police every year. Yet Progressives claim this is a greater calamity than the thousands and thousands of blacks killed by criminal activity every year. The latter situation is studiously ignored, especially by woke white progressives.
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or, approximately 1.2 million people...a small percentage for sure, but not insignificant...by contrast approximately 70-100K are deaf/blind...we don't ignore them, so why should we not care about Trans citizens who are having difficulties with their sexual perceptions? When it comes to 'Trans' athletes, I share your concern and would like to see that all remnants of masculine advantage (musculature, testosterone levels, etc.) are eliminated before allowing them to compete...and even then, on a 'provisional' basis until evidence shows true equality.
As for Blacks being mistreated and even killed by police, we've just seen the extreme example with George Floyd...but there are many others which have created the need for Black families to have the kind of talks with their children that no White family ever needs to conduct...in White families, it's just say "Yes, Sir...No, Sir" and all will be well....whereas, with Black families, that's still not enough to ensure their safety...given the long, long history of police brutality against them...
But rather than get too far down in the weeds, do you sense that there is a credible "broad brush" characterization of "ME" vs "WE" here?
There is no data to back up this notion. And the fact black parents have "the talk" with their sons isn't the result of bad police; it's the result of a demonstrably false belief.
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Do not try to run away from the officer. Do not resist arrest. Do not wrestle with the officer. Follow the officer's instructions.
Boom! Problem solved.
George Floyd would still be alive if he had followed these simple rules. Rayshard Brooks would still be alive if he had followed these simple rules. Jacob Blake would not be paralyzed if he had followed these simple rules. Daunte Wright would still be alive if he had followed these simple rules.
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their kids.
I know I didn't and neither did any of my myriad white friends and acquaintances...at least it literally never came up.
I never had to be warned about others calling me hurtful names because of my skin color...and in every police encounter I ever had I was treated with courtesy respect...which to me means that the capability is there for equal treatment...we just haven't gotten there yet.
Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/06/05/black-families-like-mine-race-talk-comes-early-its-painful-its-not-optional/
I know many non-white families that have had this type of discussion and none of them have described it as painful, awkward, yes, but not painful. I am half white, tactually less than half white and my white parent never shied away from discussion like this. That parent taught me how to interact with police and it was certainly more nuanced then just saying yes sir or ma’am like you generalized. To answer your question directly, it was not painful for me when I talk to my kids about this stuff and I am very blunt about it. But I always try to present both sides of the discussion instead of playing the victim or race card. Also, I don’t really have white peeps except for family, but they have similar discussions with their kids.
this turned out to be one of those, what I call "Nuclear Cloud Chamber" events...an unpredictable spin off in a random direction...my main interest is in whether people believe that Conservatives are more inclined toward issues of personal freedom (i.e. "ME" people), and Progressives are more concerned with group issues (i.e. "WE" people)....feel free to chime in if you wish...otherwise, thanks for joining in.
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But, it is also true that Floyd would still be alive if he had not resisted arrest.
The actions of all those guys put them in the danger zone. It would be refreshing if someone like Lebron could pass that along to people.
supervisors testified against him..."Non Compliance" was not the cause of Floyd's death...it was gross disregard for his life by Derek Chauvin. And this is the essence of what we're talking about.
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minutes even after he was already dead violates every police norm that I know of. Chauvin is a sadistic fuck who got what he deserved.
For once the blue line didn’t protect someone who shouldn’t have been.
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