Kamala has changed her mind about Election integrity?
Those who approve of mail in ballots support fraud either 'accidently' or on purpose...
Link: https://rumble.com/v5dto8l-flashback-to-kamala-chameleon-calling-for-paper-ballots-as-a-senator.html
Replies to: Kamala has changed her mind about Election integrity?
The 2020 election was among the most secure in our history, so unless you've got a spare $787M
hanging around, find something else to carp about.
Link: https://www.dominionvoting.com/elections-101-about-dominion-voting-systems/
Is he right Guys and Gals..........????
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This is one of the many reasons Trump is such a cancer
He has convinced millions of people that our elections are not legitimate. Which of course is a complete lie, swallowed whole by his followers, but believed by no one in the actual political world.
I shouldn't have to explain to you guys the danger that poses to our republic.
I would call our elections better than most but far from perfect. Why did they get rid of those
machines with the lever for Republican, Democrat of other preferences and go to the computer generated ballots? Mail in sadly, is very untrustworthy as to who is actually voting. And voter ID, two pieces of proof, should be required just like when you renew your driver's license.
So I take it that you disbelieve the stolen election/massive fraud claims of your candidate?
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As if the Dems are the party of election acceptance and post-election unity.
Trump is what happens when the status quo has failed and people are disaffected by their government and the current state of affairs.
And now, life long Dems and never trumpers are supporting him. Not because they like him, but because they hate the alternative.
A reasonable, center-left Dem that appeared to have a modicum of integrity and honesty and who could articulate a common sense policy agenda would win in a landslide. But it doesn't seem like you have anyone like that.
You don't blame the Dems who cheated, you blame the victim who calls it out. Typical liberal.
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Exhibit A. 66 court cases have no effect, nor a complete lack of evidence. Accepted on faith alone
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Sorry, I saw what happened in my state in detail,
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Attempts at voter fraud...like the NV guy who used his deceased wife's ballot to vote for Trump...
are exceedingly rare...and thwarted when challenged. Note that Baron has yet to comment on Trump's claim that thousands of deceased voter ballots were cast in GA during the 2020 election...a hand count showed...........four.
If you need a political claim "Made Up"...look no further than Donald Trump, or his acolyte, Baron.
I'm sure there are some examples of Republicans cheating but by far the most cheating have come from
mail ins, and so called early voters without IDs who most often favor Democrats. Ballot stuffing has been going on by Dems since the JFK days at least in Chicago and Philadelphia.
Will you, or one of your fellow cultists, please provide ONE example of voter fraud that changed the
outcome of ANY 2020 election?...I'm begging you...so that we can finally put this bogus meme to bed. You'd think after all the court cases and constant unsubstantiated claims, there'd be SOME evidence to support them....but after nearly four years, none have been presented...which invokes this version of Einstein's dictum..."A sure sign of insanity is continuing to beat your head against a wall, expecting a different outcome"
Michigan, Georgia, Arizona. You're a joke.
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Well, you're absolutely right about Georgia.
And according to the DA in Arizona, you might be right about that too. After the 3 month or longer recount, it was apparent there was one group trying to
defraud the election process. What's more surprising in all this is that many States including Michigan, Arizona, and Georgia attempted to present false electors or
as noted, Trump electors, to Congress to be counted for djt. Almost all those fake electors are now under criminal indictment, and this includes Rudy Guiliani, Meadows
and other notable djt cronies.
Sorry to burst your bubble on this but these events did take place, and they are all being litigated or are about to litigated with jail time being the likely outcome for all
who conspired to "rig" or falsify the election results.
"Former President Donald Trump has described his January 2021 phone call with Georgia election officials as "perfect."
Prosecutors may use another phrase: evidence of a crime.
Trump, who refused to accept his loss in Georgia and other states after the 2020 presidential election, repeatedly pushed back against the Georgia officials’ assurances that the state’s election results were accurate.
"No, no you don’t. No, no you don’t," Trump told Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. "You don’t have, you don’t have. Not even close."
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who started investigating the case in February 2021, has signaled that a grand jury indictment could come between July 31 and Aug. 18. Grand jurors will likely hear a wide range of evidence, including the phone call with state election officials, other communications he had with state officials, and efforts by Trump and his allies to arrange a fake slate of electors.
Trump’s hourlong phone call with Raffensperger offers one of the most detailed pieces of evidence into his thinking after he lost the election and sought to overturn the results. Here are the highlights.
What led to the phone call? Who was on it?
At 3 p.m. Jan. 2, 2021, Trump was part of an hourlong phone call with Georgia election officials including Raffensperger, office General Counsel Ryan Germany and Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs.
Trump was joined by several lawyers and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.
What falsehoods did Trump repeat on the phone call?
Trump’s side of the call included many election conspiracy theories.
"We won Georgia easily," Trump said. "We won it by hundreds of thousands of votes."
Trump didn’t; Biden beat Trump in Georgia by 11,779 votes.
Trump said "close to 5,000" dead people voted. State officials told Trump they found two such cases. (Later they found two more.)
Trump also repeated a ridiculous falsehood alleging the secret counting of 18,000 ballots for Biden in the early morning hours at State Farm Arena. There’s nothing to back this up.
What did Trump ask Georgia election officials to do?
Trump asked the Georgia officials to investigate his allegations about voter fraud. Many of his directives involved a quest to "find" enough ballots to put him in the winning column. He framed his requests to state officials as a mission to ferret out criminal wrongdoing.
Trump told officials that there was criminal removal of election machinery, although Germany told him there were no removed machines or machine parts.
"And you can’t let it happen, and you are letting it happen," Trump said. "You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So, look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state."
Trump continued, floating the idea that the results were a mistake or showed criminal actions:
"And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, this is — it’s a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don’t know. A lot of people think it wasn’t a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it’s a big problem in Georgia, and it’s not a problem that’s going away. I mean, you know, it’s not a problem that’s going away."
Trump said in Fulton there were "dumped ballots" as well as unsigned ballots and forgeries, telling state officials they could find the number of ballots that matched Trump’s margin.
"And you will find, you will be at 11,779 within minutes, because Fulton County is totally corrupt."
Trump directed officials to "check the ballots," saying workers were shredding ballots — another falsehood.
"Well, you better check the ballots, because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. … Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have far more than that as it stands now. We’ll have more and more."
Trump taunted state election officials, suggesting that they were derelict and didn’t want to find the fraud.
"Brad. I got to get — I have to find 12,000 votes, and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. ... You know, and I watched you this morning, and you said, uh, well, there was no criminality. But I, I mean, all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that. I just, I just don’t know why you don’t want to have the votes counted as they are."
Trump added, "So, what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break."
Germany responded "That’s not accurate, Mr. President."
Alleging thousands of ballots were stuffed for Biden, Trump said to Germany, "Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? …. I’m just curious why wouldn’t, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn’t make sense."
Trump asked Raffensperger, "What are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this. And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to re-examine it, and you can re-examine it, but re-examine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don’t want to find answers."
Raffensperger replied, "We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right."
Trump continued to push Raffensperger. Following a rant about what he said were scammed ballots by a political operative, Trump said, "And why wouldn’t you want to say, hey, if in fact President Trump is right about that, then he wins the state of Georgia, just that one incident alone, without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots?"
Trump added, "And I know this phone call is going nowhere other than, other than ultimately, you know — look, ultimately, I win, OK? Because you guys are so wrong."
At the end of the phone call, the Trump team asked for a subsequent meeting with Germany to discuss some of their specific allegations, including about dead voters. Germany replied he was happy to sit down and explain "hey, here’s, based on what we’ve looked at so far, here’s how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong."
Trump signed off by thanking Raffensperger and Germany. "Thank you very much. Bye."
Link: https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jul/25/heres-what-donald-trump-asked-georgia-election-off/